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<blockquote data-quote="Necropolitan" data-source="post: 9419133" data-attributes="member: 6669245"><p>Or here's another example:</p><p></p><p>"Please help save our loved ones," begged the villager, "A group of bandits invaded our peace festival because we didn't have weapons during it and took as slaves all those they did not slaughter!"</p><p></p><p>The Paladin shook his head.</p><p></p><p>"Your town watch had previously arrested members of that bandit group for robbing and killing people and put them in jail, thus both of you have unjustly held prisoners. The bandits say they'll stop attacking you if you stop trying to arrest them."</p><p></p><p>"We're trying to arrest them because they keep attacking us!" protested a watchman.</p><p></p><p>The Paladin drew his sword.</p><p></p><p>"How dare you! Those bandits might have tragic backstories! Have you tried not attacking them?"</p><p></p><p>"We had left them alone until they attacked our peace festival!" shouted a villager, "are you seriously unable to make moral judgements on which of us is in the wrong in this?!"</p><p></p><p>The Paladin considered a moment.</p><p></p><p>"The bandits clearly had unmet material needs which is why they robbed and murdered you all. That makes you the evil ones! Your peace festival was flaunting your prosperity, you were practically asking the bandits to attack you!"</p><p></p><p>"That's not actually true," called out a justly imprisoned bandit, "We just hate the villagers and want to murder, enslave, and rob them all. The only reason we haven't wiped them all out is because they were capable of defending themselves. Just because there's an in-group/out-group divide doesn't mean it's an unreasonable one. We have made the choice to harm others for profit and pleasure and refused any nonviolent means of attaining our desires because our desires are inherently at odds with any sort of healthy society."</p><p></p><p>It's just really weird to me that there are complaints about fighting against evil empires, slavers, and bandits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Necropolitan, post: 9419133, member: 6669245"] Or here's another example: "Please help save our loved ones," begged the villager, "A group of bandits invaded our peace festival because we didn't have weapons during it and took as slaves all those they did not slaughter!" The Paladin shook his head. "Your town watch had previously arrested members of that bandit group for robbing and killing people and put them in jail, thus both of you have unjustly held prisoners. The bandits say they'll stop attacking you if you stop trying to arrest them." "We're trying to arrest them because they keep attacking us!" protested a watchman. The Paladin drew his sword. "How dare you! Those bandits might have tragic backstories! Have you tried not attacking them?" "We had left them alone until they attacked our peace festival!" shouted a villager, "are you seriously unable to make moral judgements on which of us is in the wrong in this?!" The Paladin considered a moment. "The bandits clearly had unmet material needs which is why they robbed and murdered you all. That makes you the evil ones! Your peace festival was flaunting your prosperity, you were practically asking the bandits to attack you!" "That's not actually true," called out a justly imprisoned bandit, "We just hate the villagers and want to murder, enslave, and rob them all. The only reason we haven't wiped them all out is because they were capable of defending themselves. Just because there's an in-group/out-group divide doesn't mean it's an unreasonable one. We have made the choice to harm others for profit and pleasure and refused any nonviolent means of attaining our desires because our desires are inherently at odds with any sort of healthy society." It's just really weird to me that there are complaints about fighting against evil empires, slavers, and bandits. [/QUOTE]
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