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<blockquote data-quote="Leatherhead" data-source="post: 5973779" data-attributes="member: 53176">It's not so much that you can heal via those actions, but rather you must heal via those actions. A healing surge on a fighter in the middle of combat can't do anything without a power to &quot;spend&quot; it. Healing surges are really just a cleverly worded limiter on the number of times per day you can be healed. It's the Surge Value mechanic that does all the uniform curing. But nobody talks about surge values.Yes, actually you can try to set up a ritual mid-combat, but it is quite risky to do so. You should be quite pleased with the &quot;We have to protect the cleric for a few turns while he heals the rogue who is bleeding out&quot; scenario this promotes if you are looking for that kind of drama. And quite frankly, it's more exciting if there is risk in healing rather than the relatively effortless &quot;I spend a minor action to give them hp.&quot; Personally, I don't really like combat healing too much, as it creates those &quot;Who is going to be the band-aid box for this campaign?&quot; moments.Well, the problem in the op is &quot;How do I get a non-Vancian healer?&quot; Which this solves, because now healing isn't linked to spell slots.For a non-Vancian Buffer, this doesn't help too much, but it is my understanding that this thread is focused on the side of leaders that promotes HP gain.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Leatherhead, post: 5973779, member: 53176"] It's not so much that you [I]can[/I] heal via those actions, but rather you [I]must[/I] heal via those actions. A healing surge on a fighter in the middle of combat can't do anything without a power to "spend" it. Healing surges are really just a cleverly worded limiter on the number of times per day you can be healed. It's the Surge Value mechanic that does all the uniform curing. But nobody talks about surge values. Yes, actually you can try to set up a ritual mid-combat, but it is quite risky to do so. You should be quite pleased with the "We have to protect the cleric for a few turns while he heals the rogue who is bleeding out" scenario this promotes if you are looking for that kind of drama. And quite frankly, it's more exciting if there is risk in healing rather than the relatively effortless "I spend a minor action to give them hp." Personally, I don't really like combat healing too much, as it creates those "Who is going to be the band-aid box for this campaign?" moments. Well, the problem in the op is "How do I get a non-Vancian healer?" Which this solves, because now healing isn't linked to spell slots. For a non-Vancian Buffer, this doesn't help too much, but it is my understanding that this thread is focused on the side of leaders that promotes HP gain. [/QUOTE]

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