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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5265682" data-attributes="member: 59506">I was in Korea from '97 to mid '01, when I was able to see the "Juicy" Bars first hand.  They're extremely prevalent around the military bases.  Kind of sucked at the time because it could be difficult to find a non-Juicy Bar to just hang out at (one where you aren't constantly getting asked to "by me a Juicy?").  Some guys really enjoyed those bars though.  I knew one guy that maxed out a $10,000 dollar limit credit card during a 1 year tour, all on Juicy Girls.  However, this was all pre-crackdown, so I don't know how much, or whether, it's changed.  I am glad though that they've been cracked down on.  It was pure and simple sex trade and traffiking. There were three different types of Juicy Bars outside of my base (Osan) in Songtan: Korean bars, Filipina bars, and Russian bars.  They all worked basically the same: you could buy one of the bar girls a Juicy (usually a small glass of juice) for $5 to $10 dollars, and for as long as the girl had a drink, she would sit and talk to you.  How fast she drank the Juice depended a bit on how interesting a conversationalist you could be, but usually more on how much pressure the mama-san put on her.  Also, you could pay a girls "bar-fine" in order to get her out of the bar for the night (although not always, but usually for sex).  It always had to be negotiated with the mama-san or bar owner, and could vary from $20 to $100 for every hour she still had on her shift. The Korean bars were filled with mostly Korean girls, who were more or less free agents (although they've probably gotten into this the same way most women in America get into this type of thing).  The Filipina and Russian girls were another story.  They were usually tricked into coming to Korea for a "Hostess" job, then had they're passport taken away from them by their patron upon arrival.  They don't get their passports back until they've payed back their patron for their travel and living expenses.  Typically, the girls don't make enough money from just guys ordering them Juices, so allowing themselves to be bar-fined out is the only way to make enough money.  It's all their own choice, yet not really...<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />  Girls being beaten into compliance, or because of trying to run away, weren't completely unheard of either. There was a big expose by 60 minutes a few years ago that prompted a change in the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) making it illegal to bar-fine a girl, and causing a major crackdown on the sex trade by the Korean government.  I don't know how successful it was since I had already left by then, but I still see stories in the press.  I recently read an article stating that the sex industry was still as prevalent as ever, and another about a new military investigation of whether military security forces are protecting the Juicy-Bars (probably referring to the Town Patrols, which are supposed to be there to keep military members from getting out of line and creating incidents). Pre-crackdown, there was virtually nothing being done to check it.  Military leadership simply didn't have any authority to do anything about it.  Even some officers patroned the girls.  There was actually a book floating around the units, compiled by military members previously stationed there and called "The Keys to the Kingdom", explaining how to best achieve success in getting a Juicy Girl.  Kind of a "Juicy Girls for Dummies" book.  It was really quite sordid and disgraceful.   But, back to the OP, if the massage parlour on that card does include sex, as some have already said it probably doesn't prefer foriegners, and quite likely out-and-out forbids GI's.  I could see it as a pretty cool adventure hook also.  Understanding the Juicy Bars could add some interesting color and intrigue to modern campaigns also.  Perhaps a Juicy Girl has some important information you need, for the price of getting her free of her patron...</blockquote>

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