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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7964158" data-attributes="member: 93670">Druids are not a common class for various reasons &amp; as a result a lot of people don't have much experience with them as a player or gm so it's not a surprise that people aren't discussing it with you.&nbsp;&nbsp; Correlation is definitely&nbsp; not causation you are implying there.&nbsp; You also completely ignored what alice the druid in spider form carrying your invisible elf in a situation where a giant spider would go unnoticed brings to the table when Cindy the&nbsp; drow sorcerer warlock wizard artificer or (previously) mountain/underdark land druids could spiderclimb &amp; carry the invisible gnome sorcerer while having the&nbsp; stuff you add to all of those classes Cindy could have been.&nbsp; If your usefulness benchmark is &quot;save a trip to the spider mount corral &amp; maybe an animal handling check with one&quot; it's a safe bet that you are overestimating the situations &amp; value it brings to the table.I've experimented with giving players toys that actually allow them to function together as mount &amp; rider with shared benefits &amp; such but it never seemed to work out as well as the excited players thought it would.&nbsp; Using wildshape to scout&nbsp; &amp; negate the vast majority of the serious benefits you are attributing to wildshape is not something unique&nbsp; to your version just removes owl &amp; makes some other minor changes.You are clearly very attached to your work and seem to take a dim view of feedback.&nbsp; Like others have said, contratulations but it's not for me or my table &amp; I regret&nbsp; pointing out a rater glaring problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7964158, member: 93670"] Druids are not a common class for various reasons & as a result a lot of people don't have much experience with them as a player or gm so it's not a surprise that people aren't discussing it with you. Correlation is [I]definitely[/I] not causation you are implying there. You also completely ignored what alice the druid in spider form carrying your invisible elf in a situation where a giant spider would go unnoticed brings to the table when Cindy the drow sorcerer warlock wizard artificer or (previously) mountain/underdark land druids could spiderclimb & carry the invisible gnome sorcerer while having the stuff you add to all of those classes Cindy could have been. If your usefulness benchmark is "save a trip to the spider mount corral & maybe an animal handling check with one" it's a safe bet that you are overestimating the situations & value it brings to the table. I've experimented with giving players toys that actually allow them to function together as mount & rider with shared benefits & such but it never seemed to work out as well as the excited players thought it would. Using wildshape to scout & negate the vast majority of the serious benefits you are attributing to wildshape is not something unique to your version just removes owl & makes some other minor changes. You are clearly very attached to your work and seem to take a dim view of feedback. Like others have said, contratulations but it's not for me or my table & I regret pointing out a rater glaring problem. [/QUOTE]

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