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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 7020646" data-attributes="member: 19857">You could still do the Clone thing.&nbsp; No reason it can't work even if there's a fiddly rules argument against it.But if you've talked yourself out of it - sure typically when a lich's phylactery is destroyed the soul is destroyed and it's all good.&nbsp; But this particular lich?&nbsp; He made a pact with [insert powerful entity of your choice here] who captured his soul.&nbsp; Years later (whenever you want to bring him back) said powerful entity returns him to the world with whatever mission the entity has for him.&nbsp; It's your basic supernatural TV show formula - the big bad dies, but there's a bigger bad who brings him back.Now I'm more of a fan of the Clone idea you came up with and will be stealing it for myself.&nbsp; I don't give two figs whether the rules-as-written support a villain doing it or not, but if I did I'd still allow it by saying that the villain has discovered some loophole in the lichdom process that most liches don't get but that he's found because he's awesome (I'd only allow this for one Doctor Doom-level supervillain in my campaign though - if more than one villain has this schtick it gets old.&nbsp; And he'd really have to be a villain along the lines of Doctor Doom or the Master or Lex Luthor or something for me to do it, but that's my personal taste).What I would not do is just have the phylactery be a fake one and then have him show up years later.&nbsp; It cheapens their victory and you also have to figure out how to explain why he didn't just fake his death and then murder them in their sleep when they were least expecting it instead of going away for some lengthy time period and reappearing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jer, post: 7020646, member: 19857"] You could still do the Clone thing. No reason it can't work even if there's a fiddly rules argument against it. But if you've talked yourself out of it - sure typically when a lich's phylactery is destroyed the soul is destroyed and it's all good. But this particular lich? He made a pact with [insert powerful entity of your choice here] who captured his soul. Years later (whenever you want to bring him back) said powerful entity returns him to the world with whatever mission the entity has for him. It's your basic supernatural TV show formula - the big bad dies, but there's a bigger bad who brings him back. Now I'm more of a fan of the Clone idea you came up with and will be stealing it for myself. I don't give two figs whether the rules-as-written support a villain doing it or not, but if I did I'd still allow it by saying that the villain has discovered some loophole in the lichdom process that most liches don't get but that he's found because he's awesome (I'd only allow this for one Doctor Doom-level supervillain in my campaign though - if more than one villain has this schtick it gets old. And he'd really have to be a villain along the lines of Doctor Doom or the Master or Lex Luthor or something for me to do it, but that's my personal taste). What I would not do is just have the phylactery be a fake one and then have him show up years later. It cheapens their victory and you also have to figure out how to explain why he didn't just fake his death and then murder them in their sleep when they were least expecting it instead of going away for some lengthy time period and reappearing. [/QUOTE]

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