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<blockquote data-quote="Composer99" data-source="post: 8442872" data-attributes="member: 7030042">[USER=7032025]@Lyxen[/USER], [USER=58172]@Yaarel[/USER] quoted the <a href="https://media.wizards.com/2021/dnd/downloads/UA2021_GothicLineages.pdf" target="_blank">WotC Gothic Lineages Unearthed Arcana</a> in a <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/a-lineage-and-its-variants-the-new-race-format-going-forward.683571/post-8439153" target="_blank">post on the first page</a> of this thread.The pertinent paragraph iswhich states outright that monsters belong to a species or lineage (otherwise they couldn't belong to the &quot;same species or lineage&quot; as player characters).It... doesn't make sense to insist that people can't show you &quot;a monster that has a lineage&quot; when there is WotC documentation that explicitly states monsters and NPCs are members of a species or lineage.Perhaps it's the case that no monster or NPC stat block refers to the term &quot;lineage&quot; as of yet (and might never do so explicitly), but... there it is in black and white: monsters and NPCs are members of a species or lineage. If a monster stat block as &quot;orc&quot; in the name, are we really supposed to assume it's not the same lineage as a player character orc (or in the same family of orc lineages if there are many to choose from)?(I suppose you could argue that &quot;same species or lineage&quot; isn't meant to refer to the species or lineage of player characters, but the sentence IMO parses better if it is meant to refer to PC species or lineage, what with the follow-on reference to monsters and NPCs not needing to &quot;rely on race or class to function.&quot; But even then, monsters and NPCs are pretty clearly members of a species or lineage.)Finally, lest you refer to the fact that the UA is a playtest document and its contents are therefore provisional, I should note that the text quoted comes from a 'Design Notes' sidebar (single-quotes used to differentiate using quote marks for definitional purposes versus actual quoting of other text), a peek behind the design intent curtain rather than regular playtest content.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Composer99, post: 8442872, member: 7030042"] [USER=7032025]@Lyxen[/USER], [USER=58172]@Yaarel[/USER] quoted the [URL='https://media.wizards.com/2021/dnd/downloads/UA2021_GothicLineages.pdf']WotC Gothic Lineages Unearthed Arcana[/URL] in a [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/a-lineage-and-its-variants-the-new-race-format-going-forward.683571/post-8439153']post on the first page[/URL] of this thread. The pertinent paragraph is which states outright that monsters belong to a species or lineage (otherwise they couldn't belong to the "same species or lineage" as player characters). It... doesn't make sense to insist that people can't show you "a monster that has a lineage" when there is WotC documentation that [I]explicitly states monsters and NPCs are members of a species or lineage[/I]. Perhaps it's the case that no monster or NPC stat block refers to the term "lineage" as of yet (and might never do so explicitly), but... there it is in black and white: monsters and NPCs are members of a species or lineage. If a monster stat block as "orc" in the name, are we really supposed to assume it's not the same lineage as a player character orc (or in the same family of orc lineages if there are many to choose from)? (I [I]suppose[/I] you could argue that "same species or lineage" isn't meant to refer to the species or lineage of player characters, but the sentence IMO parses better if it is meant to refer to PC species or lineage, what with the follow-on reference to monsters and NPCs not needing to "rely on race or class to function." But even then, monsters and NPCs are pretty clearly members of a species or lineage.) Finally, lest you refer to the fact that the UA is a playtest document and its contents are therefore provisional, I should note that the text quoted comes from a 'Design Notes' sidebar (single-quotes used to differentiate using quote marks for definitional purposes versus actual quoting of other text), a peek behind the design intent curtain rather than regular playtest content. [/QUOTE]

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