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<blockquote data-quote="wolff96" data-source="post: 5519528" data-attributes="member: 342"><p>Some quick background -- without trying to start anything, I'm not the world's biggest 4e fan. So my rules knowledge is light, limited to a six-month campaign when the PHB was the only book. Regardless, I've been persuaded to try it again with a bunch of friends. And I'd prefer not to completely stink up the joint with a horrible character. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p><strong><u>RESTRICTIONS: PHB and PHB2 only, 1st level character, 22 point-buy standard.</u></strong></p><p></p><p>The group has no leader and I've been looking at the bard. The group is currently pretty melee heavy, so I was leaning towards the Cunning Bard, with Gnome for the race. One of the players recommended (and the DM allowed) some MP2 feat that allows me to use Cunning Sneak from the rogue and get Stealth training.</p><p></p><p>The idea is obviously the stealthy, sneaky bard, always on the fringes of the fight and tweaking positioning and helping his friends. Is this a viable way to approach it? Is there anything else I should be looking at in terms of feats/PPs?</p><p></p><p>------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>The other option is kind of diametrically opposed -- going the Valorous Bard route and getting some striker/defender MCs and standing on the front lines with the rest of the party. I haven't put as much thought into this one and don't know what would be a good route to pursue.</p><p></p><p>So I'm here looking for advice from those more knowledgable than I am in 4e mechanics. Advice and recommendations would be most helpful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wolff96, post: 5519528, member: 342"] Some quick background -- without trying to start anything, I'm not the world's biggest 4e fan. So my rules knowledge is light, limited to a six-month campaign when the PHB was the only book. Regardless, I've been persuaded to try it again with a bunch of friends. And I'd prefer not to completely stink up the joint with a horrible character. :) [b][u]RESTRICTIONS: PHB and PHB2 only, 1st level character, 22 point-buy standard.[/u][/b][u][/u] The group has no leader and I've been looking at the bard. The group is currently pretty melee heavy, so I was leaning towards the Cunning Bard, with Gnome for the race. One of the players recommended (and the DM allowed) some MP2 feat that allows me to use Cunning Sneak from the rogue and get Stealth training. The idea is obviously the stealthy, sneaky bard, always on the fringes of the fight and tweaking positioning and helping his friends. Is this a viable way to approach it? Is there anything else I should be looking at in terms of feats/PPs? ------------------------------------ The other option is kind of diametrically opposed -- going the Valorous Bard route and getting some striker/defender MCs and standing on the front lines with the rest of the party. I haven't put as much thought into this one and don't know what would be a good route to pursue. So I'm here looking for advice from those more knowledgable than I am in 4e mechanics. Advice and recommendations would be most helpful. [/QUOTE]
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