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<blockquote data-quote="Riastlin" data-source="post: 5519826" data-attributes="member: 94022"><p>I loved my Cunning Bard. I'm still wishing the DM would resurrect the campaign as I had such a blast playing the character.</p><p> </p><p>Anyhoo, some suggestions:</p><p> </p><p>The bard actually does really well in both melee and ranged regardless of whether you are cunning or valorous. My half elf bard was technically a cunning bard but spent almost as much time in melee as at ranged.</p><p> </p><p>However, it does sound as though you have some source restrictions. I would look at getting a songblade (which I believe was in PHB 2 but not positive). The songblade lets you use the blade for your implement powers as well as melee so you don't have to swap between them. This would save you a feat (or allow you to retrain once you get the songblade). This is important because bards will never lack for good feat choices given their multiclass versatility and jack of all trades nature.</p><p> </p><p>Alternatively, you could ask your DM if you can use versatile expertise (a feat from PHB3 that gives you expertise in both an implement and a weapon) but this would be against the above restrictions. For powers, I agree with the aforementioned Guiding Strike and Vicious Mockery. Blunder makes for an excellent encounter power for a Cunning Bard as you get to slide the target, give a free attack to an ally, AND that attack gets a bonus. Great for making a creature's day really miserable. I can't remember which daily I went with off the top of my head, but you can't go wrong with the one that grants free healing. I'll check out my character when I get home from work and let you know about the other daily.</p><p> </p><p>At any rate, the bard is very fun in 4th ed and you can't really go wrong with it. I honestly think that its a pretty difficult class to mess up as even if you take a power designed for a valorous bard when you are cunning, you'll still be pretty solid with it. Definitely I would look to keep Cha, Int, and Con all as high as possible since its very viable to dip into the opposite virtue powers and you can absolutely duck in and out of melee regardless of your virtue. The only thing you might want to consider in creation is which multiclasses you want since most of those feats have specific ability score requirements that you'll have to make sure you meet. Otherwise, you can pretty just roll with it as you level up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Riastlin, post: 5519826, member: 94022"] I loved my Cunning Bard. I'm still wishing the DM would resurrect the campaign as I had such a blast playing the character. Anyhoo, some suggestions: The bard actually does really well in both melee and ranged regardless of whether you are cunning or valorous. My half elf bard was technically a cunning bard but spent almost as much time in melee as at ranged. However, it does sound as though you have some source restrictions. I would look at getting a songblade (which I believe was in PHB 2 but not positive). The songblade lets you use the blade for your implement powers as well as melee so you don't have to swap between them. This would save you a feat (or allow you to retrain once you get the songblade). This is important because bards will never lack for good feat choices given their multiclass versatility and jack of all trades nature. Alternatively, you could ask your DM if you can use versatile expertise (a feat from PHB3 that gives you expertise in both an implement and a weapon) but this would be against the above restrictions. For powers, I agree with the aforementioned Guiding Strike and Vicious Mockery. Blunder makes for an excellent encounter power for a Cunning Bard as you get to slide the target, give a free attack to an ally, AND that attack gets a bonus. Great for making a creature's day really miserable. I can't remember which daily I went with off the top of my head, but you can't go wrong with the one that grants free healing. I'll check out my character when I get home from work and let you know about the other daily. At any rate, the bard is very fun in 4th ed and you can't really go wrong with it. I honestly think that its a pretty difficult class to mess up as even if you take a power designed for a valorous bard when you are cunning, you'll still be pretty solid with it. Definitely I would look to keep Cha, Int, and Con all as high as possible since its very viable to dip into the opposite virtue powers and you can absolutely duck in and out of melee regardless of your virtue. The only thing you might want to consider in creation is which multiclasses you want since most of those feats have specific ability score requirements that you'll have to make sure you meet. Otherwise, you can pretty just roll with it as you level up. [/QUOTE]
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