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<blockquote data-quote="ClaytonCross" data-source="post: 7577446" data-attributes="member: 6880599"><p><strong>That doesn't make since</strong>. The nimbleness of a smaller opponent doesn't have anything to do with a competition of strength between them. If your saying that perhaps an opponent could use Dexterity (acrobatics) to escape because that is an option for escaping grapples that is one thing and in the RAW. However, the size advantage on a strength check could also be considered a matter or reach and leverage that grants that advantage which the attacker would have regardless of the smaller creators decision to use strength (athletics) or dexterity (acrobatics) and <u>in D&D their is no inherent reduction in strength or increase in nimbleness in speed due to size per rules as written</u>. If a player wants to play a 20 strength Gnome with a 8 dexterity is not going to be more nimble than a medium or larger creature with 18 Strength and a 16 dexterity. </p><p></p><p><strong>I am not saying I agree with the original post's stated GM call</strong>. I am just saying there is nothing in the rules for or against it. So it appears to be just a GM call that a larger creature has an advantage due to larger limbs having greater reach to catch smaller nibble opponents and superior leverage to over power smaller strong opponents. In fact a smaller target that is both more dexterous and stronger than the attacker would still have to face the larger attackers leverage and reach.</p><p></p><p><strong>That said,</strong> watching SUMO its not uncommon for the smaller opponent to get under a larger one lifting them to reduce footing and gaining the ability to push large opponents around. So I don't see a need to add that advantage myself and <u>I certainly wouldn't give the smaller opponent disadvantage</u>. I feel like its fine to let the stats speak for themselves. If your smaller but stronger and more proficient in feats of athletically prowess its simply covered in your character design. … and yes a small Gnome is unable to target a giant for a grapple. So size is already accounted for<strong> in my opinion</strong>. I do over all see this as matter of GM discretion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClaytonCross, post: 7577446, member: 6880599"] [B]That doesn't make since[/B]. The nimbleness of a smaller opponent doesn't have anything to do with a competition of strength between them. If your saying that perhaps an opponent could use Dexterity (acrobatics) to escape because that is an option for escaping grapples that is one thing and in the RAW. However, the size advantage on a strength check could also be considered a matter or reach and leverage that grants that advantage which the attacker would have regardless of the smaller creators decision to use strength (athletics) or dexterity (acrobatics) and [U]in D&D their is no inherent reduction in strength or increase in nimbleness in speed due to size per rules as written[/U]. If a player wants to play a 20 strength Gnome with a 8 dexterity is not going to be more nimble than a medium or larger creature with 18 Strength and a 16 dexterity. [B]I am not saying I agree with the original post's stated GM call[/B]. I am just saying there is nothing in the rules for or against it. So it appears to be just a GM call that a larger creature has an advantage due to larger limbs having greater reach to catch smaller nibble opponents and superior leverage to over power smaller strong opponents. In fact a smaller target that is both more dexterous and stronger than the attacker would still have to face the larger attackers leverage and reach. [B]That said,[/B] watching SUMO its not uncommon for the smaller opponent to get under a larger one lifting them to reduce footing and gaining the ability to push large opponents around. So I don't see a need to add that advantage myself and [U]I certainly wouldn't give the smaller opponent disadvantage[/U]. I feel like its fine to let the stats speak for themselves. If your smaller but stronger and more proficient in feats of athletically prowess its simply covered in your character design. … and yes a small Gnome is unable to target a giant for a grapple. So size is already accounted for[B] in my opinion[/B]. I do over all see this as matter of GM discretion. [/QUOTE]
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