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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7578023" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>Good points all.</p><p></p><p>I think one of the key problems with shoving or grappling most creatures is that few creatures have Athletics or Acrobatics proficiency, as where the character attempting to grapple will typically have it.</p><p></p><p>For instance in our last session the player had +9 to their shove, as where the target (a gorgon) was only +5 to resist despite being both a size larger, four-legged, and outweighing the character by about 1200-1500 pounds. If the gorgon also had Athletics and wasn't using only Strength, it would have been another +3, making the contest more even. The DM had to keep narrating it that the character was targeting the hind legs, forcing the rear-half down and the rest followed. Of course, the character was usually facing the gorgon, so how he continued to get to its hind legs was a bit questionable.</p><p></p><p>I know it is a fantasy game, but it seemed a bit "super"-heroic and too easy. Now, you give that gorgon advantage due to its size and four-legs, then it would be about an even contest. I suppose another alternative is to simply grant such creatures proficiency against such attacks, making the field more even and realistic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7578023, member: 6987520"] Good points all. I think one of the key problems with shoving or grappling most creatures is that few creatures have Athletics or Acrobatics proficiency, as where the character attempting to grapple will typically have it. For instance in our last session the player had +9 to their shove, as where the target (a gorgon) was only +5 to resist despite being both a size larger, four-legged, and outweighing the character by about 1200-1500 pounds. If the gorgon also had Athletics and wasn't using only Strength, it would have been another +3, making the contest more even. The DM had to keep narrating it that the character was targeting the hind legs, forcing the rear-half down and the rest followed. Of course, the character was usually facing the gorgon, so how he continued to get to its hind legs was a bit questionable. I know it is a fantasy game, but it seemed a bit "super"-heroic and too easy. Now, you give that gorgon advantage due to its size and four-legs, then it would be about an even contest. I suppose another alternative is to simply grant such creatures proficiency against such attacks, making the field more even and realistic. [/QUOTE]
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