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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 6701968" data-attributes="member: 6786252">The problem.  The Ranger needs mechanics to be closer with their comanions and empathy than anyone else.  Everything else I, and at least my group, would find unacceptable. Paladins in 5e have their mount through magic spells.  Same with familiar. Its an intrictate part of those classes.  As for the druid?  The druid didn't have an animal companion until 3e, and never again after that.  Druids don't have animal companions in a number of novels or video games - they shape into beasts themselves as a major mechanic.  And the warlock is terrible with summons, which is a terrible loss for the class.  Really, I'm beginning to feel the warlock is badly designed, and would be a huge wreck if not for Eldritch Blast. I specifically said 2e was the start.  So glad we're on the same page.  They did have Animal Empathy as a core feature of the class.  I never said Beastmaster with a pet exclusively.  You're either not understanding me, or twisting my words around. Which just goes to show that the demand for beast companion was there.  And the giving up action to let a pet work was standard in ALL summons and companions in 4e.  Conjure up an elemental in 4e, takes your action.  Conjure up an elemental in 5e, acts alone.  The two editions are completely separate standards.   The spell using Scout and Hunter were Rangers, and had options of using the Ranger stuff from previous books, including getting a pet. So, you came here to ask opinions, and now, when I disagree with yours with my own, its suddenly a wrong opinion? You asked "So, what do you think - would it be cool to drop the idea of an animal companion as a class feature altogether, relying on general NPC party member rules for animal companions?"  No, I don't think it is cool.  I think a lot of people would be pissed off at a class without magic or some form of animal empathy. I'm not here to make you agree with any assumptions.  I'm here to give my opinion, and I'd be happy explain my position if you're confused.  I came here because you asked a question and a request for an opinion, not to fight over who has the "right idea" or be converted to your ideas.  And, given the current testing of the Ranger, I think its clear that the people at WotC think its an important part of the class identity as well.  We'll see with the next survey how much that's true with a wider audience.</blockquote>

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