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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1244779" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>Right. Unless it totally sucks. Where Hollywood is involved, that possibility is never very far off.</p><p></p><p>Couple of observations -- fantasy movies are EXPENSIVE. They're FAR more expensive than, say, sci-fi movies, because in a sci-fi movie you can put everybody in polyester jumpsuits, film the whole thing in a warehouse, add some cheap effects shots of spaceships that don't have to match anything else, and you're done.</p><p></p><p>A fantasy movie you'll need period costumes of SOME sort, weapons of some sort, maybe horses, rustic-looking sets, exteriors without modern building in the background, animals and if you use any effects shots they're going to have to integrate into SOMETHING -- even just plain old matte paintings have to look a million times better than a starfield if you're going to avoid howls of laughter from your audience.</p><p></p><p>Now, sure, if you're shooting in New Zealand, which had low wages, a skilled workforce that until just recently had been working on two fantasy-based TV series and so had tons of experience making costumes and whatnot (Ngila Dickson was costume designer on Xena before joining LotR), you've got a genius like Peter Jackson on board, temporary insanity among the New Line executives AND are in possession of the single most valuable property in literary history (okay, maybe not, but you could probably make a reasonable case for that based on book sales alone) -- THEN you can get the money to make a really good fantasy picture.</p><p></p><p>If you have seven years and completely insane partners.</p><p></p><p>Fantasy movies are hard. Especially with today's audiences -- Harryhausen stop-motion effects just won't cut it anymore, they're too savvy and they demand too much realism from their images.</p><p></p><p>I am deeply suspicious of the idea that a <em>Dragonlance</em> movie would make money. These are not HUGELY popular novels. Popular, to be sure, but a novel has to be huge before it makes a viable movie property.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say you can't make a successful film from a little-known novel, but you'll have a very hard time getting anybody to invest in it. If you go to the executives at a major studio and say, "There's these books that TSR put out, they were really popular back when and we should make movie about them," you'll get tossed out on the street.</p><p></p><p>Courtney Solomon owns the rights to <em>Dungeons and Dragons</em> and had a time getting anyone to invest. Of course, wanting to direct it himself probably didn't do him any favours. I salute him for that, and am looking forward eagerly to the next one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1244779, member: 812"] Right. Unless it totally sucks. Where Hollywood is involved, that possibility is never very far off. Couple of observations -- fantasy movies are EXPENSIVE. They're FAR more expensive than, say, sci-fi movies, because in a sci-fi movie you can put everybody in polyester jumpsuits, film the whole thing in a warehouse, add some cheap effects shots of spaceships that don't have to match anything else, and you're done. A fantasy movie you'll need period costumes of SOME sort, weapons of some sort, maybe horses, rustic-looking sets, exteriors without modern building in the background, animals and if you use any effects shots they're going to have to integrate into SOMETHING -- even just plain old matte paintings have to look a million times better than a starfield if you're going to avoid howls of laughter from your audience. Now, sure, if you're shooting in New Zealand, which had low wages, a skilled workforce that until just recently had been working on two fantasy-based TV series and so had tons of experience making costumes and whatnot (Ngila Dickson was costume designer on Xena before joining LotR), you've got a genius like Peter Jackson on board, temporary insanity among the New Line executives AND are in possession of the single most valuable property in literary history (okay, maybe not, but you could probably make a reasonable case for that based on book sales alone) -- THEN you can get the money to make a really good fantasy picture. If you have seven years and completely insane partners. Fantasy movies are hard. Especially with today's audiences -- Harryhausen stop-motion effects just won't cut it anymore, they're too savvy and they demand too much realism from their images. I am deeply suspicious of the idea that a [i]Dragonlance[/i] movie would make money. These are not HUGELY popular novels. Popular, to be sure, but a novel has to be huge before it makes a viable movie property. That's not to say you can't make a successful film from a little-known novel, but you'll have a very hard time getting anybody to invest in it. If you go to the executives at a major studio and say, "There's these books that TSR put out, they were really popular back when and we should make movie about them," you'll get tossed out on the street. Courtney Solomon owns the rights to [i]Dungeons and Dragons[/i] and had a time getting anyone to invest. Of course, wanting to direct it himself probably didn't do him any favours. I salute him for that, and am looking forward eagerly to the next one. [/QUOTE]
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