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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5979633" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>Hmm. Let's look at point 1. What follows is from a section of the SRD other than the spell description for <em>Antimagic Field</em>, and if often overlooked in discussions like this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, let's look at the highlighter sections.</p><p></p><p>The first one said, "No supernatural ability, spell-like ability, or spell works in an area of antimagic (but extraordinary abilities still work)"</p><p></p><p>The third one said, "Magic items with continuous effects do not function in the area of an antimagic effect, but their effects are not canceled (so the contents of a bag of holding are unavailable, but neither spill out nor disappear forever)."</p><p></p><p>So, can you activate a magic item? Yes. It won't work, and you'll essentially be going through the motions, but you can do it, just as you can scream in an area of <em>Silence</em>.</p><p></p><p>Magic items either work as a continuous effect, or they cast a spell or spell like effect. Between the two sections quoted, both of those possibilities are covered.</p><p></p><p>Can you cast a spell? Again, yes, just as you can scream in an area of <em>Silence</em>. You can go through the motions, it just won't achieve anything.</p><p></p><p>Now technically, you could cast a spell while inside, so long as the target was outside, and the spell "originated" outside. That is, a spell like <em>Chain Lightning</em> could be cast at a group of targets outside the AMF, since the spell manifests from the first target, and spreads to the other targets from there.</p><p></p><p>A spell like a regular <em>Lightning Bolt</em>, however, is a line effect, starting at the caster, or more precisely from a corner of the casters square. If that origination point is inside the AMF, the spell fails completely.</p><p></p><p>Any spells targeted at anyone or anything inside the AMF fail, because you can't cast "into" an AMF. </p><p></p><p>So what part of the printed rules don't you "recognize"? The part that says items cease to function in an AMF?</p><p></p><p>The part that says that spells that originate inside an AMF fail?</p><p></p><p>The part that says you can't cast spells into an AMF?</p><p></p><p>Or am I misreading something? Was your statement that you don't "recognize" anything in the spell somewhat akin to the defendant in court declaring that he doesn't recognize the authority of that court?</p><p></p><p>That is, were you saying that you didn't understand the rules, or were you declaring your independence from them?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5979633, member: 6669384"] Hmm. Let's look at point 1. What follows is from a section of the SRD other than the spell description for [I]Antimagic Field[/I], and if often overlooked in discussions like this. Okay, let's look at the highlighter sections. The first one said, "No supernatural ability, spell-like ability, or spell works in an area of antimagic (but extraordinary abilities still work)" The third one said, "Magic items with continuous effects do not function in the area of an antimagic effect, but their effects are not canceled (so the contents of a bag of holding are unavailable, but neither spill out nor disappear forever)." So, can you activate a magic item? Yes. It won't work, and you'll essentially be going through the motions, but you can do it, just as you can scream in an area of [I]Silence[/I]. Magic items either work as a continuous effect, or they cast a spell or spell like effect. Between the two sections quoted, both of those possibilities are covered. Can you cast a spell? Again, yes, just as you can scream in an area of [I]Silence[/I]. You can go through the motions, it just won't achieve anything. Now technically, you could cast a spell while inside, so long as the target was outside, and the spell "originated" outside. That is, a spell like [I]Chain Lightning[/I] could be cast at a group of targets outside the AMF, since the spell manifests from the first target, and spreads to the other targets from there. A spell like a regular [I]Lightning Bolt[/I], however, is a line effect, starting at the caster, or more precisely from a corner of the casters square. If that origination point is inside the AMF, the spell fails completely. Any spells targeted at anyone or anything inside the AMF fail, because you can't cast "into" an AMF. So what part of the printed rules don't you "recognize"? The part that says items cease to function in an AMF? The part that says that spells that originate inside an AMF fail? The part that says you can't cast spells into an AMF? Or am I misreading something? Was your statement that you don't "recognize" anything in the spell somewhat akin to the defendant in court declaring that he doesn't recognize the authority of that court? That is, were you saying that you didn't understand the rules, or were you declaring your independence from them? [/QUOTE]
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