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<blockquote data-quote="Jon_Dahl" data-source="post: 5637228" data-attributes="member: 89822">Despite your rather confrontational style, I still appreciate your views. Good stuff!I was thinking about maybe something a bit Gygaxian, but I'm still wondering how to &quot;balance&quot; the special abilities/hindrances. Like you said, maybe they count as loot?I made this (it's nothing final)&nbsp;Roll 1d100&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Bite (skeleton’s claw damage)&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Poisonous bite (skeleton’s claw damage, 3/day - blue whinnis)&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Claws or Talons (skeleton’s claw damage)&nbsp; 4.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gore (skeleton’s claw damage)&nbsp; 5.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Slap or Slam (skeleton’s claw damage)&nbsp; 6.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sting (skeleton’s claw damage)&nbsp; 7.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Tentacle (skeleton’s claw damage)&nbsp; 8.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Camel hump (CoD 43)&nbsp; 9.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fur (+2 to saves vs. nonleathal heat damage)&nbsp; 10.&nbsp;&nbsp; Webbed feet (CoD 43)&nbsp; 11.&nbsp;&nbsp; Speed (+5 ft)&nbsp; 12.&nbsp;&nbsp; Great comeliness (+4 diplomacy)&nbsp; 13.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sprout leaves &amp; become photosynthetic (CoD)&nbsp; 14.&nbsp;&nbsp; Low-light vision&nbsp; 15.&nbsp;&nbsp; Octopus’ skin adaption (CoD)&nbsp; 16.&nbsp;&nbsp; Psi-Like Ability: 1/day—energy ray. A maenad can deal only sonic damage with this ability. It is accompanied by a tremendous scream of rage. Manifester level is equal to ½ Hit Dice (minimum 1st). The save DC is Charisma-based (Complete Psionic)&nbsp; 17.&nbsp;&nbsp; +2 racial bonus to any skill (player’s choice)&nbsp; 18.&nbsp;&nbsp; -4 racial penalty to any skill (player’s choice)&nbsp; 19.&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 resistance to energy of player’s choice&nbsp; 20.&nbsp;&nbsp; Vulnerability to energy of player’s choice&nbsp; 21.&nbsp;&nbsp; 1/day - Corrupting gaze without charisma damage (see Ghost)&nbsp; 22.&nbsp;&nbsp; Scent &nbsp; 23.&nbsp;&nbsp; Feeble (UA)&nbsp; 24.&nbsp;&nbsp; Frail (UA)&nbsp; 25.&nbsp;&nbsp; Inattentive (UA)&nbsp; 26.&nbsp;&nbsp; Meager Fortitude (UA)&nbsp; 27.&nbsp;&nbsp; Murky-Eyed (UA)&nbsp; 28.&nbsp;&nbsp; Noncombatant (UA)&nbsp; 29.&nbsp;&nbsp; Pathetic (UA)&nbsp; 30.&nbsp;&nbsp; Poor Reflexes (UA)&nbsp; 31.&nbsp;&nbsp; Shaky (UA)&nbsp; 32.&nbsp;&nbsp; Slow (UA)&nbsp; 33.&nbsp;&nbsp; Unreactive (UA)&nbsp; 34.&nbsp;&nbsp; Vulnerable (UA)&nbsp; 35.&nbsp;&nbsp; Weak Will (UA)&nbsp; 36.&nbsp;&nbsp; Permanently lose 12 hp&nbsp; 37.&nbsp;&nbsp; Horrific physical change (type changes to a monstrous humanoid)&nbsp; 38.&nbsp;&nbsp; Lose 1000 XP&nbsp; 39.&nbsp;&nbsp; Lose all memories&nbsp; 40.&nbsp;&nbsp; Permanently gain 10 lbs (pure fat)&nbsp; 41.&nbsp;&nbsp; A dying character loses 4 hit point every round&nbsp; 42.&nbsp;&nbsp; Change gender&nbsp; 43.&nbsp;&nbsp; Immediately age 10 years&nbsp; 44.&nbsp;&nbsp; Permanent infertility&nbsp; 45.&nbsp;&nbsp; Permanently speak with a high-pitched voice&nbsp; 46.&nbsp;&nbsp; You are affected by Cockatrice’s Petrification (normal save allowed)&nbsp; 47.&nbsp;&nbsp; Permanent insanity (Unearthed Arcana - Table 6-10: Long-Term Temporary Insanity Effects)&nbsp; 48.&nbsp;&nbsp; Badger’s Rage (Ex)&nbsp; 49.&nbsp;&nbsp; You became a reptilian (gain reptilian subtype)&nbsp; 50.&nbsp;&nbsp; You gain an elemental subtype of a choice&nbsp; 51.&nbsp;&nbsp; Character’s tongue transforms into a long mandible (capable of holding a light weapon)&nbsp; 52.&nbsp;&nbsp; Accurate Jaunt (UA)&nbsp; 53.&nbsp;&nbsp; Bladeproof Skin (UA)&nbsp; 54.&nbsp;&nbsp; Breadth of Knowledge (UA)&nbsp; 55.&nbsp;&nbsp; Conductivity (UA)&nbsp; 56.&nbsp;&nbsp; Controlled Immolation (UA)&nbsp; 57.&nbsp;&nbsp; Eyes to the Sky (UA)&nbsp; 58.&nbsp;&nbsp; False Pretenses (UA)&nbsp; 59.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ineluctable Echo (UA)&nbsp; 60.&nbsp;&nbsp; Life Leech (UA)&nbsp; 61.&nbsp;&nbsp; Live My Nightmare (UA)&nbsp; 62.&nbsp;&nbsp; Momentary Alteration (UA)&nbsp; 63.&nbsp;&nbsp; Naturalized Denizen (UA)&nbsp; 64.&nbsp;&nbsp; Omniscient Whispers (UA)&nbsp; 65.&nbsp;&nbsp; Photosynthetic Skin (UA)&nbsp; 66.&nbsp;&nbsp; Polar Chill (UA)&nbsp; 67.&nbsp;&nbsp; Residual Rebound (UA)&nbsp; 68.&nbsp;&nbsp; Stench of the Dead (UA)&nbsp; 69.&nbsp;&nbsp; Telepathy (see Special Abilities)&nbsp; 70.&nbsp;&nbsp; Skin turns to violet&nbsp; 71.&nbsp;&nbsp; Skin turns to green&nbsp; 72.&nbsp;&nbsp; Skin turns to pink&nbsp; 73.&nbsp;&nbsp; Skin turns to red&nbsp; 74.&nbsp;&nbsp; Skin turns to blue&nbsp; 75.&nbsp;&nbsp; Lose all body hair permanently&nbsp; 76.&nbsp;&nbsp; Smite Evil (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against an evil foe.&nbsp; 77.&nbsp;&nbsp; Smite Good (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against a good foe.&nbsp; 78.&nbsp;&nbsp; Smite Chaos (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against a chaotic foe.&nbsp; 79.&nbsp;&nbsp; Smite Law (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against a lawful foe.&nbsp; 80.&nbsp;&nbsp; Prestidigitation as spell-like ability at will (Sp)&nbsp; 81.&nbsp;&nbsp; +1 natural armor&nbsp; 82.&nbsp;&nbsp; -1 natural armor&nbsp; 83.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Aboleth (LoM)&nbsp; 84.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Beholder (LoM)&nbsp; 85.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Choker (LoM)&nbsp; 86.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Destrachan (LoM)&nbsp; 87.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Ettercap (LoM)&nbsp; 88.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Gibbering Mouther (LoM)&nbsp; 89.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Mind Flayer (LoM)&nbsp; 90.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Otyugh (LoM)&nbsp; 91.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secret of Umber Hulk&nbsp; (LoM)&nbsp; 92.&nbsp;&nbsp; Unarmed attacks and natural weapons count as silver and cold iron weapons&nbsp; 93.&nbsp;&nbsp; ?&nbsp; 94.&nbsp;&nbsp; ?&nbsp; 95.&nbsp;&nbsp; ?&nbsp; 96.&nbsp;&nbsp; ?&nbsp; 97.&nbsp;&nbsp; 1/day – Overland Flight as 5th-level caster (Sp)&nbsp; 98.&nbsp;&nbsp; Roll twice&nbsp; 99.&nbsp;&nbsp; Roll thrice&nbsp; 100.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Player’s choice (from this list)Brackets have references to different sources etc.Edit: How about a XP-cost, equilavent to Permanency's XP cost to make personal spells permanent? A flat cost of 1500 XP should be more or less fair, in average. Maybe 2500 for the Overland Flight...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jon_Dahl, post: 5637228, member: 89822"] Despite your rather confrontational style, I still appreciate your views. Good stuff! I was thinking about maybe something a bit Gygaxian, but I'm still wondering how to "balance" the special abilities/hindrances. Like you said, maybe they count as loot? I made this (it's nothing final) Roll 1d100 [FONT=Calibri]1. [/FONT]Bite (skeleton’s claw damage) [FONT=Calibri]2. [/FONT]Poisonous bite (skeleton’s claw damage, 3/day - blue whinnis) [FONT=Calibri]3. [/FONT]Claws or Talons (skeleton’s claw damage) [FONT=Calibri]4. [/FONT]Gore (skeleton’s claw damage) [FONT=Calibri]5. [/FONT]Slap or Slam (skeleton’s claw damage) [FONT=Calibri]6. [/FONT]Sting (skeleton’s claw damage) [FONT=Calibri]7. [/FONT]Tentacle (skeleton’s claw damage) [FONT=Calibri]8. [/FONT]Camel hump (CoD 43) [FONT=Calibri]9. [/FONT]Fur (+2 to saves vs. nonleathal heat damage) [FONT=Calibri]10. [/FONT]Webbed feet (CoD 43) [FONT=Calibri]11. [/FONT]Speed (+5 ft) [FONT=Calibri]12. [/FONT]Great comeliness (+4 diplomacy) [FONT=Calibri]13. [/FONT]Sprout leaves & become photosynthetic (CoD) [FONT=Calibri]14. [/FONT]Low-light vision [FONT=Calibri]15. [/FONT]Octopus’ skin adaption (CoD) [FONT=Calibri]16. [/FONT]Psi-Like Ability: 1/day—energy ray. A maenad can deal only sonic damage with this ability. It is accompanied by a tremendous scream of rage. Manifester level is equal to ½ Hit Dice (minimum 1st). The save DC is Charisma-based (Complete Psionic) [FONT=Calibri]17. [/FONT]+2 racial bonus to any skill (player’s choice) [FONT=Calibri]18. [/FONT]-4 racial penalty to any skill (player’s choice) [FONT=Calibri]19. [/FONT]5 resistance to energy of player’s choice [FONT=Calibri]20. [/FONT]Vulnerability to energy of player’s choice [FONT=Calibri]21. [/FONT]1/day - Corrupting gaze without charisma damage (see Ghost) [FONT=Calibri]22. [/FONT]Scent [FONT=Calibri]23. [/FONT]Feeble (UA) [FONT=Calibri]24. [/FONT]Frail (UA) [FONT=Calibri]25. [/FONT]Inattentive (UA) [FONT=Calibri]26. [/FONT]Meager Fortitude (UA) [FONT=Calibri]27. [/FONT]Murky-Eyed (UA) [FONT=Calibri]28. [/FONT]Noncombatant (UA) [FONT=Calibri]29. [/FONT]Pathetic (UA) [FONT=Calibri]30. [/FONT]Poor Reflexes (UA) [FONT=Calibri]31. [/FONT]Shaky (UA) [FONT=Calibri]32. [/FONT]Slow (UA) [FONT=Calibri]33. [/FONT]Unreactive (UA) [FONT=Calibri]34. [/FONT]Vulnerable (UA) [FONT=Calibri]35. [/FONT]Weak Will (UA) [FONT=Calibri]36. [/FONT]Permanently lose 12 hp [FONT=Calibri]37. [/FONT]Horrific physical change (type changes to a monstrous humanoid) [FONT=Calibri]38. [/FONT]Lose 1000 XP [FONT=Calibri]39. [/FONT]Lose all memories [FONT=Calibri]40. [/FONT]Permanently gain 10 lbs (pure fat) [FONT=Calibri]41. [/FONT]A dying character loses 4 hit point every round [FONT=Calibri]42. [/FONT]Change gender [FONT=Calibri]43. [/FONT]Immediately age 10 years [FONT=Calibri]44. [/FONT]Permanent infertility [FONT=Calibri]45. [/FONT]Permanently speak with a high-pitched voice [FONT=Calibri]46. [/FONT]You are affected by Cockatrice’s Petrification (normal save allowed) [FONT=Calibri]47. [/FONT]Permanent insanity (Unearthed Arcana - Table 6-10: Long-Term Temporary Insanity Effects) [FONT=Calibri]48. [/FONT]Badger’s Rage (Ex) [FONT=Calibri]49. [/FONT]You became a reptilian (gain reptilian subtype) [FONT=Calibri]50. [/FONT]You gain an elemental subtype of a choice [FONT=Calibri]51. [/FONT]Character’s tongue transforms into a long mandible (capable of holding a light weapon) [FONT=Calibri]52. [/FONT]Accurate Jaunt (UA) [FONT=Calibri]53. [/FONT]Bladeproof Skin (UA) [FONT=Calibri]54. [/FONT]Breadth of Knowledge (UA) [FONT=Calibri]55. [/FONT]Conductivity (UA) [FONT=Calibri]56. [/FONT]Controlled Immolation (UA) [FONT=Calibri]57. [/FONT]Eyes to the Sky (UA) [FONT=Calibri]58. [/FONT]False Pretenses (UA) [FONT=Calibri]59. [/FONT]Ineluctable Echo (UA) [FONT=Calibri]60. [/FONT]Life Leech (UA) [FONT=Calibri]61. [/FONT]Live My Nightmare (UA) [FONT=Calibri]62. [/FONT]Momentary Alteration (UA) [FONT=Calibri]63. [/FONT]Naturalized Denizen (UA) [FONT=Calibri]64. [/FONT]Omniscient Whispers (UA) [FONT=Calibri]65. [/FONT]Photosynthetic Skin (UA) [FONT=Calibri]66. [/FONT]Polar Chill (UA) [FONT=Calibri]67. [/FONT]Residual Rebound (UA) [FONT=Calibri]68. [/FONT]Stench of the Dead (UA) [FONT=Calibri]69. [/FONT]Telepathy (see Special Abilities) [FONT=Calibri]70. [/FONT]Skin turns to violet [FONT=Calibri]71. [/FONT]Skin turns to green [FONT=Calibri]72. [/FONT]Skin turns to pink [FONT=Calibri]73. [/FONT]Skin turns to red [FONT=Calibri]74. [/FONT]Skin turns to blue [FONT=Calibri]75. [/FONT]Lose all body hair permanently [FONT=Calibri]76. [/FONT]Smite Evil (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against an evil foe. [FONT=Calibri]77. [/FONT]Smite Good (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against a good foe. [FONT=Calibri]78. [/FONT]Smite Chaos (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against a chaotic foe. [FONT=Calibri]79. [/FONT]Smite Law (Su) - Once per day the creature can make a normal melee attack to deal extra damage equal to its HD total (maximum of +10) against a lawful foe. [FONT=Calibri]80. [/FONT]Prestidigitation as spell-like ability at will (Sp) [FONT=Calibri]81. [/FONT]+1 natural armor [FONT=Calibri]82. [/FONT]-1 natural armor [FONT=Calibri]83. [/FONT]Secret of Aboleth (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]84. [/FONT]Secret of Beholder (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]85. [/FONT]Secret of Choker (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]86. [/FONT]Secret of Destrachan (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]87. [/FONT]Secret of Ettercap (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]88. [/FONT]Secret of Gibbering Mouther (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]89. [/FONT]Secret of Mind Flayer (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]90. [/FONT]Secret of Otyugh (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]91. [/FONT]Secret of Umber Hulk (LoM) [FONT=Calibri]92. [/FONT]Unarmed attacks and natural weapons count as silver and cold iron weapons [FONT=Calibri]93. [/FONT]? [FONT=Calibri]94. [/FONT]? [FONT=Calibri]95. [/FONT]? [FONT=Calibri]96. [/FONT]? [FONT=Calibri]97. [/FONT]1/day – Overland Flight as 5th-level caster (Sp) [FONT=Calibri]98. [/FONT]Roll twice [FONT=Calibri]99. [/FONT]Roll thrice [FONT=Calibri]100. [/FONT]Player’s choice (from this list) Brackets have references to different sources etc. Edit: How about a XP-cost, equilavent to Permanency's XP cost to make personal spells permanent? A flat cost of 1500 XP should be more or less fair, in average. Maybe 2500 for the Overland Flight... [/QUOTE]

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