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<blockquote data-quote="Gray Lensman" data-source="post: 5700829" data-attributes="member: 6680243">One thing I didn't do was put the Ability Modifiers to the skills (who me, I don't need any practice, just a kick in the head).&nbsp; Now this is what I get:&nbsp;Ok, Lets Build the Character SanstilikusMale Doppleganger Bard 1/Chameleon 10/Mind Spy 5/Masterspy 7&nbsp;STR&nbsp; 11+2=13(+1)DEX&nbsp; 14+2=16(+3)CON&nbsp; 14+2=16(+3)INT&nbsp; 17+2=19(+4) WIS&nbsp; 09+4=13(+1) CHA&nbsp; 16+2=18(+4)Has a Doppleganger He gets 42 skill points, 2 feats, 4d8 Hit Dice, BAB +4. Fort +1, Ref +4 and Will +4BAB +4. Fort +1, Ref +4 and Will +4Hit Points: 33 (7,7,4,3) +12 CON bonusFeats: Able Learner and Skill Focus (Bluff)Racial Skills: Bluff 11 (7+4 CHA), Disguise 11 (7+4 CHA), Sense Motive 8 (7+1 WIS), Listen 7, Spot 7, Spellcraft (1+4 INT=5)&nbsp;Does this really mean I don't even have to take a Bard or Rogue level and go straight to Chameleon???&nbsp;ARRRGH!!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gray Lensman, post: 5700829, member: 6680243"] One thing I didn't do was put the Ability Modifiers to the skills (who me, I don't need any practice, just a kick in the head). Now this is what I get: Ok, Lets Build the Character Sanstilikus Male Doppleganger Bard 1/Chameleon 10/Mind Spy 5/Masterspy 7 STR 11+2=13(+1) DEX 14+2=16(+3) CON 14+2=16(+3) INT 17+2=19(+4) WIS 09+4=13(+1) CHA 16+2=18(+4) Has a Doppleganger He gets 42 skill points, 2 feats, 4d8 Hit Dice, BAB +4. Fort +1, Ref +4 and Will +4 BAB +4. Fort +1, Ref +4 and Will +4 Hit Points: 33 (7,7,4,3) +12 CON bonus Feats: Able Learner and Skill Focus (Bluff) Racial Skills: Bluff 11 (7+4 CHA), Disguise 11 (7+4 CHA), Sense Motive 8 (7+1 WIS), Listen 7, Spot 7, Spellcraft (1+4 INT=5) Does this really mean I don't even have to take a Bard or Rogue level and go straight to Chameleon??? ARRRGH!!! [/QUOTE]

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