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<blockquote data-quote="Azgulor" data-source="post: 5767566" data-attributes="member: 14291"><p>I think Mercurius may have been reading RD's posts on the recent history of WotC and has come to the conclusion (rightly, I believe) that the D&D <em>brand</em>, can't make the Hasbro "core brand" mark of $50M. If RD is correct, this would put D&D in the sink-or-swim column & Mercurius wants the D&D to remain strong.</p><p></p><p>If Pathfinder continues to grow in popularity, its own increasing brand awareness (future MMO, now comic book) is the first sizeable threat in a while that could eat into that D&D brand awareness. And no, I'm not getting into the Pathfinder is bigger than D&D argument -- it's irrelevant unless its absence would push D&D past the $50M number.</p><p></p><p>However, calling Pathfinder, Arcana Evolved, or any other OGL game "D&D" isn't necessarily protecting the brand. It certainly isn't putting money in the WotC coffers.</p><p></p><p>For some of my adult players, the term D&D is still used b/c that's what they started with way back when. My kids and their friends, however, have never played D&D. If you ask them what they are playing, they are playing Pathfinder.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Another thought on this whole thing -- Why does D&D get this blind loyalty from some? Why doesn't the incarnation of the game matter? I don't refer to Call of Duty as Halo because I love that series and it was my favorit first-person shooter or whatever... They're both First-Person Shooters with largely similar gameplay. </p><p></p><p>Pathfinder is Pathfinder. 4e is D&D. It's not a form of D&D I wish to play, so the brand is largely dead to me other than from a nostalgia standpoint. However, if I wanted to play D&D, I've got several editions on my bookshelf that haven't spontaneously disintegrated to make way for 4e.</p><p></p><p>Pathfinder, meanwhile, while able to provide a D&D-like experience, has evolved beyond it's 3.5/OGL roots. It's a different (& better) game, its popularity is on the rise, and Paizo has earned the right for it to have its own brand awareness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Azgulor, post: 5767566, member: 14291"] I think Mercurius may have been reading RD's posts on the recent history of WotC and has come to the conclusion (rightly, I believe) that the D&D [I]brand[/I], can't make the Hasbro "core brand" mark of $50M. If RD is correct, this would put D&D in the sink-or-swim column & Mercurius wants the D&D to remain strong. If Pathfinder continues to grow in popularity, its own increasing brand awareness (future MMO, now comic book) is the first sizeable threat in a while that could eat into that D&D brand awareness. And no, I'm not getting into the Pathfinder is bigger than D&D argument -- it's irrelevant unless its absence would push D&D past the $50M number. However, calling Pathfinder, Arcana Evolved, or any other OGL game "D&D" isn't necessarily protecting the brand. It certainly isn't putting money in the WotC coffers. For some of my adult players, the term D&D is still used b/c that's what they started with way back when. My kids and their friends, however, have never played D&D. If you ask them what they are playing, they are playing Pathfinder. Another thought on this whole thing -- Why does D&D get this blind loyalty from some? Why doesn't the incarnation of the game matter? I don't refer to Call of Duty as Halo because I love that series and it was my favorit first-person shooter or whatever... They're both First-Person Shooters with largely similar gameplay. Pathfinder is Pathfinder. 4e is D&D. It's not a form of D&D I wish to play, so the brand is largely dead to me other than from a nostalgia standpoint. However, if I wanted to play D&D, I've got several editions on my bookshelf that haven't spontaneously disintegrated to make way for 4e. Pathfinder, meanwhile, while able to provide a D&D-like experience, has evolved beyond it's 3.5/OGL roots. It's a different (& better) game, its popularity is on the rise, and Paizo has earned the right for it to have its own brand awareness. [/QUOTE]
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