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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5768696" data-attributes="member: 50895">I don't need to stamp my feet. It matters not to me whether we agree on a definition of D&amp;D. I don't want to convince you to my perspective - it doesn't even matter. I'm convinced of my definition, though the subject of it's definition only comes in forum/message boards, nowhere else. So it's really a non-point.&nbsp;If D&amp;D hadn't changed at all from 1974 on, then we could all agree on some thing that is definitely D&amp;D. But while the essence of the game is the same, the rules between every edition can hardly be called the same thing. Many games are still close to D&amp;D, but deviated a long time ago, yet simple gamers, as in those in my group - they are all D&amp;D.&nbsp;Games that don't use a d20 + modifier vs. DC/AC, with possible saving throw mechanic or don't have levels for characters that progress in hit points, saves and class features, may be an RPG, but is not D&amp;D. Everything else that uses the above mechanics, no matter what genre it supports (fantasy, cowboy's, sci-fi, other) is still D&amp;D, at least by my definition.&nbsp;I'm sure that doesn't match your definition, and I'm fine with that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 5768696, member: 50895"] I don't need to stamp my feet. It matters not to me whether we agree on a definition of D&D. I don't want to convince you to my perspective - it doesn't even matter. I'm convinced of my definition, though the subject of it's definition only comes in forum/message boards, nowhere else. So it's really a non-point. If D&D hadn't changed at all from 1974 on, then we could all agree on some thing that is definitely D&D. But while the essence of the game is the same, the rules between every edition can hardly be called the same thing. Many games are still close to D&D, but deviated a long time ago, yet simple gamers, as in those in my group - they are all D&D. Games that don't use a d20 + modifier vs. DC/AC, with possible saving throw mechanic or don't have levels for characters that progress in hit points, saves and class features, may be an RPG, but is not D&D. Everything else that uses the above mechanics, no matter what genre it supports (fantasy, cowboy's, sci-fi, other) is still D&D, at least by my definition. I'm sure that doesn't match your definition, and I'm fine with that. [/QUOTE]

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