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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8307909" data-attributes="member: 18">I think the issue tends to come up when people start getting shot A LOT rather than just occasionally.Like, when people occasionally get shot by a flintlock or w/e in D&D it's rarely even thought about. But when you have a situation like d20 Modern, where unarmoured or very lightly armoured people are just getting blasted over and over by rules that make it clear these are to some extent meat points, and they're just completely fine, it starts to get quite farce-y and not very action-movie-ish.It's like, get shot and survive, fine, but if you keep getting shot multiple times in a fight in multiple sessions, every time you're like "Pffft I'm fine", it starts getting weird. And yeah it's a double-standard, but it's one that, for my main group, definitely rapidly exceeded the "This is fine" level of shenanigans/silly business when we tried playing d20 Modern and also when we tried playing some other d20 ones (maybe Spycraft?).To feel like an action movie the SW approach works really well, but pure HP starts making things a bit bizarre. OTOH if it was a setting where people wear armour all the time, are covered in magical forcefields and so on, or have armoured skins and stuff, it would probably just fly.</blockquote>