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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Archimago" data-source="post: 121738" data-attributes="member: 1204">Firstly to the silly... Who is the American you're referring to Crothian, neither Jonathan Swift (Irish) or myself (Canadian) are from the US. I alluded to the real "Modest Proposal" b/c my post followed a structure of a proposal and I just happened to of Swift. Besides, shoulf attract a few people in this crowded board. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />And now to the serious...Firstly, is there a way for me to move this thread to house rules myself, or do I just have to wait for an admin. I wasn't sure exactly where to put it because my first part is an exposition of the problem with the current TWF config and can be separated from the house rule I suggest to fix it. I'm not trying to make it require less feats, I'm trying to reach a similar end to having TWF and Ambidex w/o having one useless feat. Which would be which ever one you take first if you don't take them at the same time. True but it might as well be. Accruing a -10 penalty pretty much bars a low level character from bothering with it unless they ge the feats, and if they get only one the penalties are still so high it remains practically useless. I'm not to concerned with the problem of keeping the same feats around, but since ambidex (or TWF, which one is taken first) has no application outside of TWF (unlike Rapid Shot) until both feats are taken, I would like a different feat to be the prereq, one that doesn't suffer from this fault (although my alt. TWF wouldn't list it as a prereq in the strict sense of D&D). I acknowledge that one is ranged and one melee (very clever kreynolds <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ), but they are still similar. Both have the same bonus and both limit that bonus. True that you don't need to wield an extra bow to benefit from Rapid Shot (I'd like to see that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ), but that's because of the nature of the weapons. Besides if replaced TWF with a feat like "Speed Attack" that was Rapid Shot in melee, then that would be entirely unbalanced.</blockquote>

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