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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5971690" data-attributes="member: 996">I'm not covered for it, sadly. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Hmm... If I had to put those 3 eds of D&amp;D on a complexity scale, it'd probably go (from most to least) 3.5, late 2e, 1e, 3.0, 4e+Essentials, early 2e, early 4e, Basic D&amp;D.&nbsp; 3e and late 2e got very bloated, 1e was rendered very complex by it's plethora of odd sub-systems, while 2e initially consolidated a lot of that into a more unified package, and 3.0 and 4e, similarly, started out consolidated and streamlined compared to what preceded (and followed) them, and Basic D&amp;D, of course, was a limited and simplified starter set.That is, I don't see a complexity divide between classic (1e/2e/0D&amp;D/BECMI) and modern D&amp;D (3e/4e), rather, editions seem to start off relatively simple (compared to the prior ed), and then grow and bloat into complex messes.I think that, maybe, when people talk about AD&amp;D being 'simple,' they really mean 'familiar' - because the very familiar /seems/ simple compared to learning something new.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5971690, member: 996"] I'm not covered for it, sadly. ;) Hmm... If I had to put those 3 eds of D&D on a complexity scale, it'd probably go (from most to least) 3.5, late 2e, 1e, 3.0, 4e+Essentials, early 2e, early 4e, Basic D&D. 3e and late 2e got very bloated, 1e was rendered very complex by it's plethora of odd sub-systems, while 2e initially consolidated a lot of that into a more unified package, and 3.0 and 4e, similarly, started out consolidated and streamlined compared to what preceded (and followed) them, and Basic D&D, of course, was a limited and simplified starter set. That is, I don't see a complexity divide between classic (1e/2e/0D&D/BECMI) and modern D&D (3e/4e), rather, editions seem to start off relatively simple (compared to the prior ed), and then grow and bloat into complex messes. I think that, maybe, when people talk about AD&D being 'simple,' they really mean 'familiar' - because the very familiar /seems/ simple compared to learning something new. [/QUOTE]

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