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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5972101" data-attributes="member: 87792">I think you do the edition war far too much credit. 4e has lasted longer than 3.5 did - and a lot longer than 3.0 did. They just need more if they are ever to make that $50 million/year target.&nbsp;And we'll know an edition's failed if there isn't a subsequent one.&nbsp;Now I might want a 4.5 (bits of 4e clunk badly) but there is enough support for 4e out there that literally the only books I want for 4e are a Birthright setting (including domain management and mass combat) and a Spelljammer setting. Oh, and more monster vaults. I literally can't think of anythng else I really want for 4e.&nbsp;Edit: Come to think of it I'd also like a proper treatment of Sigil/Planescape in more depth than they gave in the DMG 2.&nbsp; But only if they retcon the timeline so that the Faction War never happened (for those of you who don't know, the Faction War makes the Spellplague look like a case of benign neglect of a setting).&nbsp;&nbsp;And I'm sure there will be a D20 retroclone of 4e using OGL-released material and reverse engineering. Same way the other retroclones work. It just needs something to coalesce the fanbase on. (On rpg.net I mostly jokingly suggested Paizo should make one to force WotC onto the back foot with 5e - and it would be a jackpot for any other game company).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5972101, member: 87792"] I think you do the edition war far too much credit. 4e has lasted longer than 3.5 did - and a lot longer than 3.0 did. They just need more if they are ever to make that $50 million/year target. And we'll know an edition's failed [I]if there isn't a subsequent one[/I]. Now I might want a 4.5 (bits of 4e clunk badly) but there is enough support for 4e out there that literally the only books I want for 4e are a Birthright setting (including domain management and mass combat) and a Spelljammer setting. Oh, and more monster vaults. I literally can't think of anythng else I really want for 4e. Edit: Come to think of it I'd also like a proper treatment of Sigil/Planescape in more depth than they gave in the DMG 2. But only if they retcon the timeline so that the Faction War never happened (for those of you who don't know, the Faction War makes the Spellplague look like a case of benign neglect of a setting). And I'm sure there will be a D20 retroclone of 4e using OGL-released material and reverse engineering. Same way the other retroclones work. It just needs something to coalesce the fanbase on. (On rpg.net I mostly jokingly suggested Paizo should make one to force WotC onto the back foot with 5e - and it would be a jackpot for any other game company). [/QUOTE]

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