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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5972422" data-attributes="member: 996">3e went 8 years, 4e has gone 4 and is basically dead at this point (no new material forthcoming), even if 5e isn't out yet.&nbsp; Dividing it into 3.0 and 3.5 gives you one game that went 3 and one 5.&nbsp; Dividing 4e at Essentials, that's two games at 2 years each.No matter how you slice it, 4e has been killed prematurely, even compared to 3e.And, if you count ongoing OGL 3pp support and Pathfinder, 3.x is immortal:&nbsp; it's gone 12 years and can keep going forever. &nbsp;The GSL makes cloning 4e on the level that Pathfinder cloned 3.5 impossible (well, illegal).&nbsp; And, while some sort of vague immitation using the OGL might stand the legal test, it's unlikely any 3pp would have the resources to carry through on the necessary legal defense to get there.&nbsp;&nbsp; With nothing to 'rally around' the 4e fanbase will either feel forced into 5e or away from D&amp;D altogether, there's not enough non-WotC 4e resources to make a go of it.&nbsp; That will, of course, be taken as final proof of the edition's failure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5972422, member: 996"] 3e went 8 years, 4e has gone 4 and is basically dead at this point (no new material forthcoming), even if 5e isn't out yet. Dividing it into 3.0 and 3.5 gives you one game that went 3 and one 5. Dividing 4e at Essentials, that's two games at 2 years each. No matter how you slice it, 4e has been killed prematurely, even compared to 3e. And, if you count ongoing OGL 3pp support and Pathfinder, 3.x is immortal: it's gone 12 years and can keep going forever. The GSL makes cloning 4e on the level that Pathfinder cloned 3.5 impossible (well, illegal). And, while some sort of vague immitation using the OGL might stand the legal test, it's unlikely any 3pp would have the resources to carry through on the necessary legal defense to get there. With nothing to 'rally around' the 4e fanbase will either feel forced into 5e or away from D&D altogether, there's not enough non-WotC 4e resources to make a go of it. That will, of course, be taken as final proof of the edition's failure. [/QUOTE]

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