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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Daniel" data-source="post: 3284542" data-attributes="member: 694"><p>Actually, the original D&D fighter had it much better than that. True, the 2nd edition AD&D fighter was the only guy who could specialize in a weapon (until Combat & Tactics came along and flubbed everything up with its weapon expertise/mastery rules). But in classic D&D, the fighter was the only guy who got "fighter combat options" -- parry/total defense; set spear vs. charge; and "smash attack", which let a 9th level fighter take a -5 penalty to an attack roll and add his strength <em>score</em> to the damage if he hit. (Although, if memory serves, I believe elves, dwarves, halflings, and monks also eventually earned the ability to use these actions.) Of course, in OD&D, you didn't have to be a fighter to take weapon mastery either.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, I recently decided to re-write D&D to make it more "old-school" as well. I'm going to strip out feats, skill points, and attacks of opportunity, and really, really pare down the list of classes and prestige classes to make the game look a little more like OD&D. Back in the day, it was manageable -- your options were fighter, thief, cleric, magic-user, monk, elf, dwarf, or halfling, and if your cleric was neutral he could go druid at level 9. I'm not going <em>that</em> far, but I do prefer a short list to our present day array of eldritch knights, spellswords, duskblades, hexblades, shamans, spirit shamans, dragon shamans, dragon adepts, dragon disciples, duelists, dread pirates, swashbucklers, beguilers, healers, wilders, warmages, warlocks, lions, tigers, and bears, oh my.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Daniel, post: 3284542, member: 694"] Actually, the original D&D fighter had it much better than that. True, the 2nd edition AD&D fighter was the only guy who could specialize in a weapon (until Combat & Tactics came along and flubbed everything up with its weapon expertise/mastery rules). But in classic D&D, the fighter was the only guy who got "fighter combat options" -- parry/total defense; set spear vs. charge; and "smash attack", which let a 9th level fighter take a -5 penalty to an attack roll and add his strength [i]score[/i] to the damage if he hit. (Although, if memory serves, I believe elves, dwarves, halflings, and monks also eventually earned the ability to use these actions.) Of course, in OD&D, you didn't have to be a fighter to take weapon mastery either. Incidentally, I recently decided to re-write D&D to make it more "old-school" as well. I'm going to strip out feats, skill points, and attacks of opportunity, and really, really pare down the list of classes and prestige classes to make the game look a little more like OD&D. Back in the day, it was manageable -- your options were fighter, thief, cleric, magic-user, monk, elf, dwarf, or halfling, and if your cleric was neutral he could go druid at level 9. I'm not going [i]that[/i] far, but I do prefer a short list to our present day array of eldritch knights, spellswords, duskblades, hexblades, shamans, spirit shamans, dragon shamans, dragon adepts, dragon disciples, duelists, dread pirates, swashbucklers, beguilers, healers, wilders, warmages, warlocks, lions, tigers, and bears, oh my. [/QUOTE]
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