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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5729864" data-attributes="member: 52734"><p>Here's another situation to mull over, which came up in my game:</p><p></p><p>One of the players, a fighter, kept a sack full of flour and bag of pepper with him wherever he went. When he ran across an invisible, mirror imaged or otherwise obscured enemy, he'd throw the bag of flour at that foe.</p><p></p><p>As for the pepper, he'd throw the (opened) bag at an opponent's face to blind them.</p><p></p><p>In both cases, whenever he needed to, he'd restock back in town.</p><p></p><p>Would you allow this to work and to what extent?</p><p></p><p>[sblock]</p><p>If this player's action hadn't been so annoying, I might not have been as thoughtful in my response to his actions. But not only was he insistent to make this part of his "standard repertoire", he <em>insisted</em> that it work, and that success be automatic. I wasn't about to allow that - I don't let players dictate terms; they're not the DM.</p><p></p><p>I ruled that for both cases, he needed to make a touch attack roll to hit with the bag. For the flour, the target could take a standard action to "dust themselves off", for the pepper, it was a Fort save DC 14 to avoid being blinded for 1d4 rounds.</p><p></p><p>I didn't want the fighter overusing this tactic, and using a 2 cp bag of stuff to thwart the likes of <em>improved invisibility</em> or <em>invisibility sphere</em>. At the same time, I didn't want to have him make seek out something like Hellground Flourpowder to thwart high-level invisibility. [/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 5729864, member: 52734"] Here's another situation to mull over, which came up in my game: One of the players, a fighter, kept a sack full of flour and bag of pepper with him wherever he went. When he ran across an invisible, mirror imaged or otherwise obscured enemy, he'd throw the bag of flour at that foe. As for the pepper, he'd throw the (opened) bag at an opponent's face to blind them. In both cases, whenever he needed to, he'd restock back in town. Would you allow this to work and to what extent? [sblock] If this player's action hadn't been so annoying, I might not have been as thoughtful in my response to his actions. But not only was he insistent to make this part of his "standard repertoire", he [I]insisted[/I] that it work, and that success be automatic. I wasn't about to allow that - I don't let players dictate terms; they're not the DM. I ruled that for both cases, he needed to make a touch attack roll to hit with the bag. For the flour, the target could take a standard action to "dust themselves off", for the pepper, it was a Fort save DC 14 to avoid being blinded for 1d4 rounds. I didn't want the fighter overusing this tactic, and using a 2 cp bag of stuff to thwart the likes of [I]improved invisibility[/I] or [I]invisibility sphere[/I]. At the same time, I didn't want to have him make seek out something like Hellground Flourpowder to thwart high-level invisibility. [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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