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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5730182" data-attributes="member: 42582">I would be happy to let a dirt-scattering spell contribute to extinguishing a fire, although it seems that the spell kicks the dirt into the air rather than just dumps it on the ground, which means it might only have a dampening rather than an extinguising effect. (Let's roll % dice! Or perhaps a Spellcraft check?) Is Create Water a 0-level spell in PF? If so, then I'd expect this 1st level spell to have about the same effect as a Create Water spell would (higher level, but not as obviously applicable).The flour sounds to me like it might be adjudicated as spending a standard action to grant a bonus to Perception checks to spot the enfloured target. (I don't know the 3E/PF action economy that well, but a standard action to grant everyone +5 to spot that target seems reasonable - using the grenade like missile rules to actually achieve delivery?) On the other hand, I'm a bit suspicious of the pepper trick. A standard action to blind a foe for any length of time is on the strong side, and my rough-and-ready inner simulationist tells me that it can't be that easy to blow blinding dust into the face of an enemy. S'mon's suggestion (perhaps without the secondary Fort attack) seems reasonable.For all this sort of stuff, I think that the rule system should offer fairly robust guidelines as to how its action economy is meant to work, and how much a single standard action is expected to contribute to the resolution of a challenge. 4e's p 42 is a first stab at these sorts of guidelines, but I don't know if PF has anything similar.I also like to be guided by tone and genre - "creative spellcasting" is a D&D tradition, whereas too much flour and pepper can get a bit stale - but I see this as less about the GM's role and more about everyone at the table reaching some rough consensus on how much grittiness or inanity they are prepared to tolerate in the game.</blockquote>

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