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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9245116" data-attributes="member: 42582">I don't think we're going to have to go as far as law suits!<a href="http://www.indie-rpgs.com/_articles/narr_essay.html" target="_blank">Edwards' claim</a> is that, from a transcript - or "story hour" - we can't tell whether play was narrativist, gamist or simulationist:Go ahead and role-play, and write down what happened to the characters, where they went, and what they did. I'll call that event-summary the "transcript." But some transcripts have, as Pooh might put it, a "little something," specifically a theme: a judgmental point, perceivable as a certain charge they generate for the listener or reader. If a transcript has one (or rather, if it does that), I'll call it a story. . . . The real question: after reading the transcript and recognizing it as a story, what can be said about the Creative Agenda that was involved during the role-playing? The answer is, ***absolutely nothing. We don't know whether people played it Gamist, Simulationist, or Narrativist, or any combination of the three. A story can be produced through any Creative Agenda. The mere presence of story as the *product of role-playing is not a GNS-based issue. The point is an abstract one, that there is no general, uniform relationship between creative agenda and events in the fiction - that to establish creative agenda you have to examine not the fiction but rather the play, which will not itself be set out in the transcript.But he is not claiming that any given RPG, played in pursuit of a well-suited creative agenda, can produce any transcript at all. (Which is your point.) Nor is he saying that, as a matter of fact about RPG practices and preferences among the extent population of RPG players, that we wouldn't expect to see more subtlety or nuance or twisty-turny in a BitD transcript than (say) a CoC transcript. In principle, for any given BitD transcript, it should be possible to write a CoC-ish adventure that, if played through, will replicate that transcript. But in practice I don't think anyone thinks those modules are out there.</blockquote>

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