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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6680768" data-attributes="member: 996">The edition war /was/ a community phenomenon.  If there was a 'dark age' coinciding with it, it was a dark age for the on-line community in the grips of the edition war, not for the game itself, which was actually a great deal of fun (and still is).That's avoiding controversy by cleaving to the lowest common denominator, yes.   (as well as trying to create a game that is more appealing and accessible to newbies). That'd be a nicer spin, sure.  But the bottom line is 3.5 brought far more customization to the game, and opened up the industry with an OGL, and 5e hasn't; and the 4e refined the game to a level of balance, playability and accessibility that 5e has completely abandoned in it's appeal to nerdraging edition warriors.  You can argue that it was a good idea to do so, that the property was better off sticking with the fan-base it had than trying for break-out growth.  From an idealist point of view, I'd want to disagree, but the reality is obvious.  You mean objective qualities that games have?  Sure.  Balance, consistency and clarity for instance.  D&D has never really depended on such qualities to sell, though.  It's depended on it's status as first RPG, the loyalty of the fanbase that's stuck with it since the fad years of the early-mid 80s, and the fact it's the only RPG with any mainstream name recognition.    D&D is the biggest TTRPG. It sells to more fans than any other RPG.  You don't do that by catering to lofty niche preferences.  5e, in particular, was explicitly intended to be D&D for everyone who ever loved D&D.  Got to find some lowest common denominators to do that.   5e is meant to be inclusive of all past & current fans of D&D, so every time someone posts "5e is not for you," they're saying it's failed.  I disagree with that sentiment.IMHO, 5e has succeeded.  You're both playing it.  I'm playing it (technically, DMing it).  We're virtually all into it, or at least not offended by it, even if it is with varying degrees of excitement, and different perspectives on the game's history.</blockquote>

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