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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6680868" data-attributes="member: 996">I think pejorative is pushing it, a negative connotation, sure, but not an unwarranted one, and inevitable the wider the net you cast.   That's a danger of this medium.  We can't hear tone or get a sense of eachother beyond the text we're using to communicate, so it's easy to read things into it.  I read your posts and get the impression you're an uncritical apologist, who would gush at anything WotC did.  I doubt that's what's really going on, but I'm not a mind-reader, so I can't know for sure.The idea that there's a playstyle forced or 'not supported' by 3e or 4e or classic D&D or 5e isn't something I agree with, anyway.  Each version of D&D had some good things going for it, but never to such a degree that you couldn't play them in whatever 'style' you wanted - and 5e's goal was to combine the best of each prior ed, anyway.  It succeeded in getting back to the DM-empowerment of classic D&D, which I like a lot (and am happily taking full advantage of as I DM), and didn't throw away all the cool stuff that 3e innovated, even if it did make both MCing and Feats optional, which I also appreciate (though it's not quite enough to get me enthused as a player).  If it had somehow managed to do that and keep some of the balance and more of the player agency of 4e, that'd've been even better, of course.  But it was a very tall order, and the degree of success they've managed is still impressive. That's pretty typical from what I saw of 4e at the time, and with 5e now.  Long-time gamers who'd branched off from D&D and completely-new-new-to-hobby-gamers found 4e accessible, while long-time staunch D&Ders and returning AD&D veterans found it weird & un-D&D-like.  5e a lot more accessible to returning players, and still works fine for long-time players of all sorts. Add to that generalization (there, that's less baggage than LCD), D&D's positioning as first RPG, both literally, and in the sense of the one RPG so many gamers started with, and it's not just a contender, but the Champion.   It's funny, because I disagree and agree with that.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  Inclusiveness does mean /including/ what everybody wants, rather than excluding what a few people don't want.  And, yes, via it's version of modularity (which I'd call 'variants,' because 'module' means something different to me, and implies a higher level of cross compatibility), actually does deliver a fair amount of that. I'm just not putting as brightly positive a spin on it as you are.  I'm a tad cynical, y'know. ;PNot what I'm trying to convey, at all.  5e winds the clock back in a number of ways, but it's not minimalist or dumbed-down in any sense.  No version of D&D ever was (other than Basic sets, of course), it's just a complex game by its very nature.  The Lowest Common Denominator among our community certainly isn't 'dumb' either, this is a nerdy sub-culture, and we all at least like to think of ourselves as on the smart side.   Indeed, the OGL really revitalized the industry, even as it re-focused it back on D&D dominance.  Maybe they figure 5e is already dominating, so they don't need it?  Maybe it's lack of resources?  In any case, the existing 1.0 OGL is flexible enough that a couple of 3pps have already put out "5E" compatible material.  More to come, whatever WotC does, I'm guessing.</blockquote>

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