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<blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 1743797" data-attributes="member: 23619"><p>Maybe 'sick of' or 'frustrated' would be better than jaded. There's no logic behind 'fire and forget' and it is too restrictive with what you can and cannot cast. I've always thought that it was silly to memorize a spell and then forget it as soon as you cast it. Not to mention having to memorize a spell more than once to cast it repeatedly. How exactly does one memorize something twice anyway? You either know something or you don't. You can't know something 'twice'. Maybe the wizard would rather give up three castings of magic missile for an extra fireball or web? Maybe he'd rather fly than dimension door? If a warrior wanted to use a dagger instead of a greatsword, a wizard should have similar options. And don't say its an 'apples to oranges' kind of thing. Its not. Its about each class having options appropriate to the situation at hand.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Not true at all. Check out the Revised Elements of Magic. It is an excellent alternate to the 'fire and forget' system. The premise is much more believable than 'fire and forget' and allows for a greater range of personalization for casters while still keeping the system balanced. Also, many existing D&D spells are converted into the system quite easily--not being 'dragged screaming and kicking' at all.</p><p></p><p>As for a sorcerer-style cleric, check out the Favored Soul in the Complete Divine. That is probably just what you are looking for, in that regard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawken, post: 1743797, member: 23619"] Maybe 'sick of' or 'frustrated' would be better than jaded. There's no logic behind 'fire and forget' and it is too restrictive with what you can and cannot cast. I've always thought that it was silly to memorize a spell and then forget it as soon as you cast it. Not to mention having to memorize a spell more than once to cast it repeatedly. How exactly does one memorize something twice anyway? You either know something or you don't. You can't know something 'twice'. Maybe the wizard would rather give up three castings of magic missile for an extra fireball or web? Maybe he'd rather fly than dimension door? If a warrior wanted to use a dagger instead of a greatsword, a wizard should have similar options. And don't say its an 'apples to oranges' kind of thing. Its not. Its about each class having options appropriate to the situation at hand. Not true at all. Check out the Revised Elements of Magic. It is an excellent alternate to the 'fire and forget' system. The premise is much more believable than 'fire and forget' and allows for a greater range of personalization for casters while still keeping the system balanced. Also, many existing D&D spells are converted into the system quite easily--not being 'dragged screaming and kicking' at all. As for a sorcerer-style cleric, check out the Favored Soul in the Complete Divine. That is probably just what you are looking for, in that regard. [/QUOTE]
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