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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Takeda" data-source="post: 340328" data-attributes="member: 6977">Ok, point taken.  I guess all I mean is that the benefits of Aristocrat and Expert don't come close to the benefits of a PC class, and in my opinion it ultimately handicaps them compared to another character who has the same number of classes, but they are all PC classes.Like I said though, ... this is just my opinion.But just for an example, if you give Frodo 1 level of Fighter and two Rogue he can kick butt.  Give him 1 level of Aristocrat and 2 levels of Rogue and he has probably 1 less hit point, 1 less BAB, 1 less Feat, less Fort save, but a better Will save.  They have more choices for skills, ... but I think it comes at too high a cost.  If that was a level of Barbarian, or Ranger, or Paladin they would be getting HUGE benefits.  Having even one level of Druid, Bard, Sorcerer or Wizard would be tremendously useful.  Think of the first time you saw what a sleep spell can do to a few orcs, or Mage Armour when you ran into trouble.  Healing magic, the list goes on.Now if you give Frodo the Aristocrat level for his 1st level development you handicap him even more.  Ok, ... I guess this sounds like munchkinism.  But the NPC classes were designed for just that, for NPCs and that's why their CR's are calculated as being lower than a PC.On the ME Conversion site there are classes from Non-SRD sources because finding a match to the setting Tolkien wrote about is more important (again, in my opinion) than making ME match the game we play. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />That said, ... ... oh never mind, I'm just rambling now!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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