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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4750045" data-attributes="member: 22779">I'm sorry, I don't buy it.There is no difference between the player saying &quot;I attack the orc with my sword&quot; and &quot;I attack the orc with my sword and hit an AC of 2&quot;.&nbsp; There is no difference between &quot;I rush at the orc, can I reach him in time?&quot; and &quot;I rush at the orc, my move is 6&quot;, I should be able to reach him in time, let me get my string.&quot;You're basically trying to claim that improv acting is the only way to role play.&nbsp; That I have to &quot;act out the action&quot; in order to role play.&nbsp; Ballocks.&nbsp; For one, there are just so many actions within an RPG in which I could have no actual knowledge in order to role play.&nbsp; I certainly have no idea how to pilot a starship, but my PC does.&nbsp; Does that mean Star Trek is no longer an RPG?&nbsp; I really can't really hack into a computer, so Shadowrun is no longer an RPG.&nbsp; And I'm pretty darn sure that no one reading this can ever cast a spell, so, most of D&amp;D is out as well.HowandWhy, trying to claim that the concept of roleplay was defined in 1974 and must be carved in marble tablets never to be changed is ridiculous.&nbsp; It's ridiculous for two reasons - one, language changes so no definition is ever that fixed and two, in 1974 no one had any real idea of what the heck they were doing, let alone enough experience in thinking about it to be able to formulate a hard definition.Sorry, this whole thing just smacks of one true wayism.&nbsp; You've flat out said that there is only one way to actually role play, and stated it in such a way that pretty much screams edition warz.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4750045, member: 22779"] I'm sorry, I don't buy it. There is no difference between the player saying "I attack the orc with my sword" and "I attack the orc with my sword and hit an AC of 2". There is no difference between "I rush at the orc, can I reach him in time?" and "I rush at the orc, my move is 6", I should be able to reach him in time, let me get my string." You're basically trying to claim that improv acting is the only way to role play. That I have to "act out the action" in order to role play. Ballocks. For one, there are just so many actions within an RPG in which I could have no actual knowledge in order to role play. I certainly have no idea how to pilot a starship, but my PC does. Does that mean Star Trek is no longer an RPG? I really can't really hack into a computer, so Shadowrun is no longer an RPG. And I'm pretty darn sure that no one reading this can ever cast a spell, so, most of D&D is out as well. HowandWhy, trying to claim that the concept of roleplay was defined in 1974 and must be carved in marble tablets never to be changed is ridiculous. It's ridiculous for two reasons - one, language changes so no definition is ever that fixed and two, in 1974 no one had any real idea of what the heck they were doing, let alone enough experience in thinking about it to be able to formulate a hard definition. Sorry, this whole thing just smacks of one true wayism. You've flat out said that there is only one way to actually role play, and stated it in such a way that pretty much screams edition warz. [/QUOTE]

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