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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4753945" data-attributes="member: 22779">Just teasing out one line here.  I'm confused as to the difference between roleplay and pretending to be a fictional character.  In the RPG context (and I'm not talking about roleplay as a pedagogical tool), isn't taking on the persona of a fictional character the entire point of role playing games?  Or, even if you are trying to play a real person, either yourself or a known figure of some sort, don't most RPG's place you in a fictional situation?  It's a pretty rare RPG that would have me playing myself posting stuff on En World.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />One other question.  You bring up the term Roleplay Simulation multiple times.  Are you contending that this term and the term roleplay that we use when describing RPG's has the same meaning?  That "Roleplay Simulation" is the only form of roleplay that can exist?Because, then we're right back at Halo being a better Roleplay Simulation than any pen and paper game.  After all there is a direct correlation between my actions and the actions in that world.  There is nearly zero abstraction, other than user interface.The other issue I'm having here is that your definition of roleplay includes nothing about freedom or creativity.  A firedrill may be a Roleplay Simulation, but, it is not roleplay as the RPG world defines the word.  And it sure isn't much fun either.  Again, I'm very confused why you insist on defining the word so narrowly and only allow one possible definition for the term roleplay.See, to me, a roleplaying game (not simulation, game) is any game where the primary function of the game is for you to create some form of persona that interacts in some way in a world that operates in a commonly agreed upon fashion within that group.  And, yup, that's a pretty broad definition of role playing game.  But, to me, I can't think why I would want to exclude games from the definition.What do we gain by excluding games like Dogs in the Vineyard and GURPS from the umbrella of Role Playing Game?  What benefit is there?</blockquote>

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