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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 7228196" data-attributes="member: 6778044">Oops. I added the proficiency bonus on top of that...Yep <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, but it would be the proposed expertise, so a maximum of +5 instead of +6 with the existing expertise.That's why I like this proposed version of proficiency and expertise. Better stats still have an impact, just not as much as before. And the idea of proficiency and expertise meaning the same thing across the board.Which leads me to even more madness...What about AC?Right now you can be proficient or non-proficient in armor, but it doesn't mean anything resembling proficiency elsewhere. Why? Because you don't use your proficiency bonus of course.How about this?UnarmoredNon-Proficient: AC = 10Proficient: AC = 10 + proficiency bonus Expert: AC = 10 + proficiency bonus + ability modifierThis allows somebody to train to be better at defense and remain unarmored. Unarmored defense would be expertise, but you could pick your ability modifier instead of being "stuck" with Dexterity.With armor:AC = 10 + armor bonus (if no proficiency)AC = 10 + proficiency bonus + armor bonus (proficient)AC = 10 + proficiency bonus + ability modifier + armor bonus (expertise)Armor would have a bonus of +1 to +5, and the maximum Dexterity modifier is the opposite (Plate = +5, no DEX modifier).So the range of AC would be 10 to 21 not including a shield.Aside from consistency, it means that as you get better, your AC improves. Although this is already addressed to some degree by increasing hit points as you gain levels, I'm OK with the idea of the double-dip here.It also increases the base AC by the proficiency bonus for unarmored (although you could require a proficiency in "unarmored" to gain that).</blockquote>

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