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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 5734834" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hey S'mon! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair point. I was too quick to lump the (MM3) drow in with the Yuan-ti.</p><p></p><p>Yes, the uber-BBEG's typically lack ANY relative minions and those drow were a good attempt at fleshing out those ranks.</p><p></p><p>I plugged Lolth into my Religion Calculator to see the results:</p><p></p><p>+1 RANK - Final Fight MAXIMUM = Level 40 Encounter</p><p>DEITY - Lolth = x (where x in this case = 44 or Solo 35)</p><p>-1 RANK - e.g. Lieutenant/Demigod/Demon Prince (less than 10) = x-5 (Elite 35 or Solo 30)</p><p>-2 RANKS - e.g. Avatar/Drow Pope/Quasi-deity/Demon Lord (less than 100) = x-10 (Standard 34, Elite 30 or Solo 25)</p><p>-3 RANKS - e.g. Drow Archpriestess/Champion (less than 1000) = x-15 (Standard 29 or Elite 25)</p><p>-4 RANKS - e.g. Aspect/Draegloth Abomination/Drow House Mother (less than 10,000) = x-20 (Minion 32 or Standard 24)</p><p>-5 RANKS - e.g. Yochlol/Drow High Priestess (less than 100,000) = x-25 (Minion 27 or Standard 19)</p><p>-6 RANKS - e.g. Drider/Drow Priestess (less than 1 million) = x-30 (Minion 22 or Standard 14)</p><p></p><p>The above suggests that the Drow detailed in MM3 would be -4 RANK servants (or -3 RANK for the Lady of Spiders and Eclavdra). A Balor (such as Errtu) would also be -3 RANK.</p><p></p><p>Therefore we can still see that any encounters with Lolth and her servants will still be very light on -1 and -2 RANK monsters.</p><p></p><p>A final fight against Lolth might (more) realistically have:</p><p></p><p>Lolth (Level 35 Solo)</p><p>-1 RANK: Vhaerun (Demigod, Level 30 Solo)</p><p>-2 RANKS: Eclavdra & Errtu (both Level 30 Elite)</p><p>-3 RANKS: Lolth's Champions...four (Demon-possessed*) Drow NPCs (all Level 29)</p><p>*Possessed by Draegloth Abominations which manifest when each of them is killed. </p><p>- 5 RANKS: Yochlol...6 of these creatures start. If one is killed another appears until Lolth is destroyed (though you only gain XP for 6).</p><p></p><p>Thats a Level 38 (ish*) Encounter.</p><p></p><p>*Technically Level 39 but with the Draegloth not starting the fight and the XP total only about 10% over the threshold I'd call it 38.</p><p></p><p>You could have 8 Champions of Lolth (the "Eight Legs of Lolth" maybe?) plus 8 possessing Draegloth Abominations and still keep it to a Level 39 Encounter by dropping Eclavdra to Level 29 Elite. Although that might be too many NPCs in play to keep things running smoothly.</p><p></p><p>MAXED ENCOUNTER (Level 40)</p><p></p><p>Lolth (Level 35 Solo)</p><p>Graz'zt (Level 32 Solo)</p><p>Vhaerun (Level 30 Solo)</p><p>Eclavdra (Level 28 Elite)</p><p>Errtu (Level 27 Elite)</p><p>x4 Drow Champions (Level 29...each possessed by a Level 24 Draegloth Abominations)</p><p>x6 Yochlol (Level 27 minions...respawn if killed before Lolth)</p><p></p><p>Special Notes:</p><p></p><p>1. Graz'zt will teleport away when reduced to 75% hp</p><p>2. If Lolth is killed...all Yochlol automatically destroyed</p><p>3. If Lolth is killed...Vhaerun will teleport away when reduced to 75% hp</p><p>4. If Lolth & Vhaerun are killed...Eclavdra will attempt to flee when reduced to 75% hp</p><p>5. If Lolth, Vhaerun & Eclavdra are killed...the remaining Drow will try to escape.</p><p>6. Any Draegloth Abominations fight to the death.</p><p></p><p>...okay I went off on one there, but something like that is what I mean. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 5734834, member: 326"] Hey S'mon! :) Fair point. I was too quick to lump the (MM3) drow in with the Yuan-ti. Yes, the uber-BBEG's typically lack ANY relative minions and those drow were a good attempt at fleshing out those ranks. I plugged Lolth into my Religion Calculator to see the results: +1 RANK - Final Fight MAXIMUM = Level 40 Encounter DEITY - Lolth = x (where x in this case = 44 or Solo 35) -1 RANK - e.g. Lieutenant/Demigod/Demon Prince (less than 10) = x-5 (Elite 35 or Solo 30) -2 RANKS - e.g. Avatar/Drow Pope/Quasi-deity/Demon Lord (less than 100) = x-10 (Standard 34, Elite 30 or Solo 25) -3 RANKS - e.g. Drow Archpriestess/Champion (less than 1000) = x-15 (Standard 29 or Elite 25) -4 RANKS - e.g. Aspect/Draegloth Abomination/Drow House Mother (less than 10,000) = x-20 (Minion 32 or Standard 24) -5 RANKS - e.g. Yochlol/Drow High Priestess (less than 100,000) = x-25 (Minion 27 or Standard 19) -6 RANKS - e.g. Drider/Drow Priestess (less than 1 million) = x-30 (Minion 22 or Standard 14) The above suggests that the Drow detailed in MM3 would be -4 RANK servants (or -3 RANK for the Lady of Spiders and Eclavdra). A Balor (such as Errtu) would also be -3 RANK. Therefore we can still see that any encounters with Lolth and her servants will still be very light on -1 and -2 RANK monsters. A final fight against Lolth might (more) realistically have: Lolth (Level 35 Solo) -1 RANK: Vhaerun (Demigod, Level 30 Solo) -2 RANKS: Eclavdra & Errtu (both Level 30 Elite) -3 RANKS: Lolth's Champions...four (Demon-possessed*) Drow NPCs (all Level 29) *Possessed by Draegloth Abominations which manifest when each of them is killed. - 5 RANKS: Yochlol...6 of these creatures start. If one is killed another appears until Lolth is destroyed (though you only gain XP for 6). Thats a Level 38 (ish*) Encounter. *Technically Level 39 but with the Draegloth not starting the fight and the XP total only about 10% over the threshold I'd call it 38. You could have 8 Champions of Lolth (the "Eight Legs of Lolth" maybe?) plus 8 possessing Draegloth Abominations and still keep it to a Level 39 Encounter by dropping Eclavdra to Level 29 Elite. Although that might be too many NPCs in play to keep things running smoothly. MAXED ENCOUNTER (Level 40) Lolth (Level 35 Solo) Graz'zt (Level 32 Solo) Vhaerun (Level 30 Solo) Eclavdra (Level 28 Elite) Errtu (Level 27 Elite) x4 Drow Champions (Level 29...each possessed by a Level 24 Draegloth Abominations) x6 Yochlol (Level 27 minions...respawn if killed before Lolth) Special Notes: 1. Graz'zt will teleport away when reduced to 75% hp 2. If Lolth is killed...all Yochlol automatically destroyed 3. If Lolth is killed...Vhaerun will teleport away when reduced to 75% hp 4. If Lolth & Vhaerun are killed...Eclavdra will attempt to flee when reduced to 75% hp 5. If Lolth, Vhaerun & Eclavdra are killed...the remaining Drow will try to escape. 6. Any Draegloth Abominations fight to the death. ...okay I went off on one there, but something like that is what I mean. :o [/QUOTE]
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