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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6272607" data-attributes="member: 2525">But you're not.&nbsp; The bard isn't using their body any more as they gain levels.&nbsp; They're doing the same thing, with the same physical effort, for each level.&nbsp; They get more efficient at their diplomacy and investigation and contacts and such, but they're not actually running or jumping or swining a sword or doing any of the things which would increase efficiency in using your body.&nbsp; It's not like it's a mystery what increases human endurance - actual exercise is what does that.&nbsp; But there is no connection between amount of exercise you get, and your level.Ah, see now skill at dodging, &quot;rolling with a hit&quot;, is definitely not covered by &quot;meat&quot; and &quot;ability to endure fatigue&quot;.&nbsp; Now you're adding something to HPs that was not in your original definition.&nbsp; And, as it's one of the controversial elements of HPs, I think we're back to the same problem D&amp;D has always had.I say again - why would the bard in my example gain more meat, or more ability to endure fatigue, as their level goes up? I'm not seeing any connection between gaining experience in the things that bard does, and meat or ability to endure fatigue.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6272607, member: 2525"] But you're not. The bard isn't using their body any more as they gain levels. They're doing the same thing, with the same physical effort, for each level. They get more efficient at their diplomacy and investigation and contacts and such, but they're not actually running or jumping or swining a sword or doing any of the things which would increase efficiency in using your body. It's not like it's a mystery what increases human endurance - actual exercise is what does that. But there is no connection between amount of exercise you get, and your level. Ah, see now skill at dodging, "rolling with a hit", is definitely not covered by "meat" and "ability to endure fatigue". Now you're adding something to HPs that was not in your original definition. And, as it's one of the controversial elements of HPs, I think we're back to the same problem D&D has always had. I say again - why would the bard in my example gain more meat, or more ability to endure fatigue, as their level goes up? I'm not seeing any connection between gaining experience in the things that bard does, and meat or ability to endure fatigue. [/QUOTE]

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