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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grendel_Khan" data-source="post: 9458128" data-attributes="member: 7028554">Good point about not having access to those other classes, though I'm also not into Spire's published adventures, so the large amount of real estate in Strata and that are devoted to those make them a lot less of a must-have for me. The tools in Magister's, on the other hand, let you do more of your own, and more narrativist, stuff.But really, what they should do is a proper 2e, that pulls in the extra classes and the Magister's stuff. And while I don't like the Heart-based Beats advancement option for Spire, I bet that in the process of doing a 2e they'd wind up pulling the overall system closer to Heart, maybe even adding Echo Stress.</blockquote>