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<blockquote data-quote="Rhuarc" data-source="post: 7807044" data-attributes="member: 15872"><p>Hey again mate!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wholeheartedly agree that there needs to be a cap, just that level 20 is too low for my personal taste. For one, there are just too many nice toys to play with and enjoy in epic and higher tiers before you reach the divine to simply skip them in my opinion. </p><p></p><p>I also see a clear divide between level 20 characters and even the lowest of deities, but that comes down to personal preference I guess. At level 20 you got a Balor as a nice reference monster. There needs to be quite a gap between them nice fellows and a Demon Lord, putting the ruling class of the demons (or devils or other equivalents on other planes) quite a bit higher than CR 20 (maybe 25-30). In turn, there always has been a power difference in D&D between a Demon Lord and even a Lesser Deity, so we need to go higher than 30 to even start with the whole divine ascension path.</p><p></p><p>But as said, that's simply how I like to run it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that's only true if you don't have any personal content. My current monster list (which is far from complete) has about 5.850 entries, with more than 1.900 of them being CR 21+ (and some 270 of CR 50+). So no, I won't run out of monsters to challenge my players with ever <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are 15 stat blocks for epic monsters in the book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rhuarc, post: 7807044, member: 15872"] Hey again mate! I wholeheartedly agree that there needs to be a cap, just that level 20 is too low for my personal taste. For one, there are just too many nice toys to play with and enjoy in epic and higher tiers before you reach the divine to simply skip them in my opinion. I also see a clear divide between level 20 characters and even the lowest of deities, but that comes down to personal preference I guess. At level 20 you got a Balor as a nice reference monster. There needs to be quite a gap between them nice fellows and a Demon Lord, putting the ruling class of the demons (or devils or other equivalents on other planes) quite a bit higher than CR 20 (maybe 25-30). In turn, there always has been a power difference in D&D between a Demon Lord and even a Lesser Deity, so we need to go higher than 30 to even start with the whole divine ascension path. But as said, that's simply how I like to run it :-) Well, that's only true if you don't have any personal content. My current monster list (which is far from complete) has about 5.850 entries, with more than 1.900 of them being CR 21+ (and some 270 of CR 50+). So no, I won't run out of monsters to challenge my players with ever :D There are 15 stat blocks for epic monsters in the book. [/QUOTE]
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