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<blockquote data-quote="Leopold" data-source="post: 647633" data-attributes="member: 758">Knowledge CheckAgain, i feel that asking &quot;Well did anyone ever remember a neutral fiend before? If so who was he and what did he do?&quot; using knowledge religion isn't going to get that answer. Knowledge (infernal) or even (celestial) might. Diving could be another answer. Religon might give you &quot;yup it's happened&quot; but the who might take some digging. Think about this. Nowadays we have the 'net. Before that we had to call around to find answers, before that we had to look stuff up in tomes, etc. Some of that rare answers might be more difficult, the Roll of his dice+skill set to different varying DC's (DC 10 gives you X 20 gives you Y, etc.) will give him his answer. That point i'll give you...we don't have a monk. but that's beside the point. Your asking the cleric or the paladin who are both whorshiping gods (cleric-= god of metal) that have NOTHING to do with devils and demons in their pantheonic dogma to know this? That's like asking a fisherman who's lived his life on the sea to all of a sudden design an aircraft carrier &quot;Well you worked on a boat didn't ya???&quot; Sure he may know something but not the whole kit and kabootle, divining for answers can/may help. Also talking to people who specialize in the field would work. Those that traffic in demons and devils might know more.&nbsp; Similarly to one who may broker in celestials might have heard the tale of one as is the rarity of such.Again, i'll set the DC to varying and be rather high to find info about one unless a specialist is found, then it makes sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Leopold, post: 647633, member: 758"] Knowledge Check Again, i feel that asking "Well did anyone ever remember a neutral fiend before? If so who was he and what did he do?" using knowledge religion isn't going to get that answer. Knowledge (infernal) or even (celestial) might. Diving could be another answer. Religon might give you "yup it's happened" but the who might take some digging. Think about this. Nowadays we have the 'net. Before that we had to call around to find answers, before that we had to look stuff up in tomes, etc. Some of that rare answers might be more difficult, the Roll of his dice+skill set to different varying DC's (DC 10 gives you X 20 gives you Y, etc.) will give him his answer. That point i'll give you... we don't have a monk. but that's beside the point. Your asking the cleric or the paladin who are both whorshiping gods (cleric-= god of metal) that have NOTHING to do with devils and demons in their pantheonic dogma to know this? That's like asking a fisherman who's lived his life on the sea to all of a sudden design an aircraft carrier "Well you worked on a boat didn't ya???" Sure he may know something but not the whole kit and kabootle, divining for answers can/may help. Also talking to people who specialize in the field would work. Those that traffic in demons and devils might know more. Similarly to one who may broker in celestials might have heard the tale of one as is the rarity of such. Again, i'll set the DC to varying and be rather high to find info about one unless a specialist is found, then it makes sense. [/QUOTE]

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