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Message: <blockquote data-quote="painandgreed" data-source="post: 2380035" data-attributes="member: 24969">Sounds interesting. IMHO, giving mercy was an option that the paladin could make. in choosing so, then trying to redeem the NPC would not be considered "associating" in the context that would mean the loss of powers. She is essentially a prisoner and if such meant associating, then you could never have a paladin work in a prison or as a member of the city guard or government when the city hasn't been purged of all evil. Associating in this context is more like a mutual agreement to work towards eachothers goals.That being said, I'd turn this into a large contest between the paladin and the cleric to see who could convert the other. The paladin will attempt to redeem the cleric, and quite possibly the cleric sees her only possible (or even desired) revenge is to cause the paladin to fall. What the paladin does to try and convert the cleric would be interesting and most likly would involve lots of role playing as the paladin tries to get the cleric to study her personal beleifs and realize there is a better way. Lots of this will depend on why she is evil. Is she simply an evil person or was she raised in an evil society and has never known anything better. Redeeming her may be as simple as showing her there is a better way and she can let go of all her hate and fear (without her thinking it is all just a trick). If nothing else, she might be convinced to change over to a good or neutral god whose beleifs fall in line with her own.On her part, the easiest thing for her to do is simply to do whatever the paladin says and hope he starts using her as free labor. Then the paladin would fall if he never gets around to trying to redeem her and just uses her as extra help. Asking her to user her cleric powers for just about anything would cause the paladin to fall automatically I would assume. If it can be arranged so that the paladin has to ask the cleric to use her powers (assuming she still has them) to save himself or somebody else, such an act of a paladin requesting a cleric of Orcus to use their powers would probably result in immediate fall, but would the paladin consider falling worth what could be saved by such an action? So long as she acts subserviant and only talks about her beleifs if the paladin asks, the paladin would probably never recognise it as an attempt at conversion as she tries the Socratic method to have the paladin find the error in her ways.It sounds like a long drawn out role playing segment of a contest of wills between the two. The loser being the first one to grow too comfortable with the current arrangement and to stop trying to activily convert the other (at least, that's how I'd do it if I was the DM). Even then, I don't know if I could go with the immediate redemption or corruption of either one. both of them have a lifetime of good and bad deeds that are not going to be instantly forgotten. Truely going over to the other side would require lots of work and deeds to make up for past actions before they start looking at drifting to a different place in the outer planes after death.Editted to add:Another thing is that I would say that by granting her mercy, the paladin has accepted responsiblity for her and would be held accountable for any actions the cleric prefroms later. If the cleric escapes and commits more evil acts, it would probalby cause the fall of the paladin and only be redeemable after she has killed the cleric.</blockquote>

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