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<blockquote data-quote="Nibelung" data-source="post: 4522780" data-attributes="member: 74499"><p>Which a fighter <strong>can</strong> do too, but this dont mean that the mobs will be charging him if he do. </p><p></p><p>Paladins have FOUR encounter powers that have range over close burst 1: One in lvl 7, and 3 in epic levels. None of his at-wills are ranged. What this mean? That the paladin is a major melee class. </p><p></p><p>Now, why should a melee class take a ranged weapon to mark his target? And probly he will be smacked by 3 OAs if he do too, because he will probly be in a melee fight holding some other mobs with his thread area and his occupied square. </p><p></p><p><em>"Yes, but the fighter will be there in the same situation, and he cant mark other guy too"</em></p><p></p><p>But the fighter have class features that allow him to be a real meat shield. Combat Superiority dont allow most enemies to pass througt him, and he get a bonus to hit OAs. </p><p></p><p>Paladins do OA, and the mob pass. He can hold only one monster per time with his mark. How should be his advantage? 1) The auto-damage; 2) The ranged mark that brings the enemy to him and allow him to say "step away from my squishy friend with the pointy hat". </p><p>==================</p><p>Cutserv already said that you need to engage the same turn. I know this is the official rule. I'm just throwing some light in spots, so everyone can think about it. How anyone rules his table is not of my business.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nibelung, post: 4522780, member: 74499"] Which a fighter [b]can[/b] do too, but this dont mean that the mobs will be charging him if he do. Paladins have FOUR encounter powers that have range over close burst 1: One in lvl 7, and 3 in epic levels. None of his at-wills are ranged. What this mean? That the paladin is a major melee class. Now, why should a melee class take a ranged weapon to mark his target? And probly he will be smacked by 3 OAs if he do too, because he will probly be in a melee fight holding some other mobs with his thread area and his occupied square. [i]"Yes, but the fighter will be there in the same situation, and he cant mark other guy too"[/i] But the fighter have class features that allow him to be a real meat shield. Combat Superiority dont allow most enemies to pass througt him, and he get a bonus to hit OAs. Paladins do OA, and the mob pass. He can hold only one monster per time with his mark. How should be his advantage? 1) The auto-damage; 2) The ranged mark that brings the enemy to him and allow him to say "step away from my squishy friend with the pointy hat". ================== Cutserv already said that you need to engage the same turn. I know this is the official rule. I'm just throwing some light in spots, so everyone can think about it. How anyone rules his table is not of my business. [/QUOTE]
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