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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 990965" data-attributes="member: 5834">The word you is indicative of how you view things, thus indicating you have a Chaotic nature. A lawful person is constantly thinking of the group and how his or her actions represent the group. Lawful should indicate group order, not individual. When you are looking at lawful good society and not a lawful good individual, you must take into account their goal of creating order for the entire group. When you look at a Lawful Good individual, you have to ask are the representing properly the ideals of their society. In this case, the society is not necessarily Lawful Good, so the Paladin may well be representing their society. So be it.Yes, that is pretty much what I am telling you. A lawful society will not allow nor encourage promiscuity of any kind. If it is done by leaders, they will cover it up. All types of interpersonal relations will be governed by carefully ordered social customs, whether it be sex or the proper greeting of persons of differing stations.Now Neutral or Chaotic socities are another matter entirely. Chaotic is the very antithesis of society as such societies tend to place a greater emphasis on individuality. I have always felt the reason Chaotic societies by their nature don't produce Paladins is because there are very few, if any, people present who will devote their life to the service of others.Even in elven socities the primary leaders of the society are often Neutral or Lawful in nature. Look in elves of Evermeet at some of their war leaders, they can't even bring themselves to make all the leaders Chaotic Good. A society can have Chaotic Good social values, but most likely Lawful and Neutral Good folks will be implementing them, folks with an alignment that fits serving others with devotion. It can. If it is rare. It will most likely occur beyond the control of the society or serving some greater social purpose.It isn't a lawful act, if that is what you are asking. If for example, you have a day of madness, like was seen in an episode of Star Trek, then that is the law. That means they are controlling their chaos by focusing it all into a single day of revelry. So the act is Chaotic, the law is meant to serve as a release from order for a day, it is Lawful.My comments were a little abrasive, but snide? I just personally think you are being a little too lenient and tolerant of the actions of a Paladin who is usually looked upon as a paragon of order and goodness. The shining rock that defends society from the external forces of chaos and evil. Devoted defender of virtue, mercy, justice, fairness, and all those other fluffy things associated with being good. Most of the lady Paladins I have seen run conduct themselves in an extremely lady-like manner barring donnning armor and whooping ass on a battlefield.BTW, I'm done. Any deeper a discussion will get the thread locked. To each their own.</blockquote>

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