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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wrahn" data-source="post: 994275" data-attributes="member: 9191">Would Vandor be hurt by Bonwyn have sex with Ghandethar and if so did she know this?  If the answers to the questions above are yes, then she has betrayed Vandor and fallen from grace.  Whether she was acting in accordance with what her culture believed, she was still acting in a manner with which she knew would hurt someone she cared for.  If she was aware of it, and could not live with the restrictions of that relationship, she should have been honest and broken it off.Does Bronwyn know of Ghandethar evil nature?  Does she suspect it?  Is she trying to convert him away from evil?  If Bronwyn is aware he is evil, her duty is to either convert him or kill him, regardless of her personal feelings towards him.  If she suspects, she should find out as a top priority, a paladin does not hide from the light of truth.  Failure to find out or to convert or kill him is a dereliction of her duty, regardless of her personal feelings.Lastly she was dishonest.  There were a lot of way she could have dealt with the situation without resorting to misleading what are presumably her friends and loved ones.  She could have told them she didn’t wish to talk about it, or ideally the truth and dealt with the consequences.  Because her chosen deity is Lawful Neutral, and I know very little about the tenets of the faith or the personality of the god, I would assume that even a relatively minor infraction would be cause for her to fall from grace.Sum up:If she betrayed Vandor, loss of Paladinhood: severe Atonement (She was unfaithful, bad for a paladin)If she is knowingly associating with the enemy without ulterior motives: loss of Paladinhood, medium Atonement (She was in dereliction of her duty, again bad for a paladin)She was dishonest: Loss of Paladinhood, he atonement should not be too bad (something like telling the group the truth and explaining why she chose to lie to them, and receive their forgiveness)I think from a LG or NG deity they would “warn” her, show her what a break in trust can do (like having her sudden and foundlessly believe that the party is lying to her), but LN deities are often inflexible, and a martial diety needs discipline in his disciples.</blockquote>

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