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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 994502" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>Interesting thoughts, Kyramus, but it seems to me that in war, duplicity is encouraged WRT to your enemy, but not necessarily WRT to your allies... especially when it denies them a chance to wipe out that enemy.</p><p></p><p>It also seems to me you're trying to have it both ways. You want a god of war and strength, and you praise her for not taking advantage of her strength... then you praise her for being impressed when her opponent does. That doesn't cut it for me.</p><p></p><p>"Fairness" warfare has NEVER called for the sides to be "equally matched" - otherwise you COULDN'T have a winner. "Fairness" in warfare calls for not using underhanded tactics to gain more of an advantage than you "naturally" have. If you are at war, and you outnumber your opponent 100:1, you are not required to send 99% of your troops home to "even the odds." Doing so might be magnanimous and virtuous, but certainly NOT fair. A god of warfare and strength expects you to punch with your full force, not to pull punches because the other guy can't hit as hard.(that's the god of mercy who asks you to do that).</p><p></p><p>Which way do you want it... is she worshipping a god of honest warfare and strength or is she worshipping a god of mercy? If it's warfare and strength, she has shown weakness by not attacking when she had a fair and natural advantage and needs to be punished. If it's a god of mercy, she has allowed herself to be dazzled by strength rather than mercy... and needs to be punished.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, from the description given by Shark in the first place, MERCY never entered into it. Her emotions and feelings for the man were what caused her to lie to her comrades. That's not mercy in my book - that's emotional involvment and compromising her standards because of it.</p><p></p><p>One other thought WRT lying/deceiving her comrades... though it may be an Obi-Wan Kenobi line, IMO I should NEVER have hear this out of the mouth of a paladin...</p><p></p><p>"You see, what I told you was true... from a certain point of view."</p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 994502, member: 2013"] Interesting thoughts, Kyramus, but it seems to me that in war, duplicity is encouraged WRT to your enemy, but not necessarily WRT to your allies... especially when it denies them a chance to wipe out that enemy. It also seems to me you're trying to have it both ways. You want a god of war and strength, and you praise her for not taking advantage of her strength... then you praise her for being impressed when her opponent does. That doesn't cut it for me. "Fairness" warfare has NEVER called for the sides to be "equally matched" - otherwise you COULDN'T have a winner. "Fairness" in warfare calls for not using underhanded tactics to gain more of an advantage than you "naturally" have. If you are at war, and you outnumber your opponent 100:1, you are not required to send 99% of your troops home to "even the odds." Doing so might be magnanimous and virtuous, but certainly NOT fair. A god of warfare and strength expects you to punch with your full force, not to pull punches because the other guy can't hit as hard.(that's the god of mercy who asks you to do that). Which way do you want it... is she worshipping a god of honest warfare and strength or is she worshipping a god of mercy? If it's warfare and strength, she has shown weakness by not attacking when she had a fair and natural advantage and needs to be punished. If it's a god of mercy, she has allowed herself to be dazzled by strength rather than mercy... and needs to be punished. Regardless, from the description given by Shark in the first place, MERCY never entered into it. Her emotions and feelings for the man were what caused her to lie to her comrades. That's not mercy in my book - that's emotional involvment and compromising her standards because of it. One other thought WRT lying/deceiving her comrades... though it may be an Obi-Wan Kenobi line, IMO I should NEVER have hear this out of the mouth of a paladin... "You see, what I told you was true... from a certain point of view." --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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