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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goblyns Hoard" data-source="post: 1850965" data-attributes="member: 19970">I need some help on this one because I don't want a TPK on my hands (what can I say I like telling good stories which means developed characters).One of my players has indicated he'd be interested in having his paladin go through a crisis of faith of some sort.  This I like... it gives us a good opportunity for roleplaying and will bring in the other players a bit as they will also have to deal with the same moral question.  I've just gone through the concept with another one of my players (who's ranger worships the same goddess) and together we came up with what we think is a good plan for this.The paladin worships Fera my homebrew goddess of Fertility, Life and Lust.  She despises the undead, so the plan is to have them go up against something like a Lich.  The trick is that the Lich's phylactery is not an object but an innocent child.  The only way to kill the undead (which Fera hates) is to kill the child (an innocent).  Killing the child will piss off Fera - allowing the Lich to live will piss of Fera.  Nice moral conundrum to play through and winner's on all sides in terms of game fun!  The paladin can come up with good reasons for action or inaction, justify it to himself, and still end up on the wrong side of his goddess.The problem - the characters are 5th level and are likely to be toasted by a Lich - minimum CR 13 (11th level casting required +2 for Lich template), particularly as there is no cleric (it's just a paladin, ranger and druid).  Plus it's going to have to come back at least once so they know it's an ongoing problem.  If I play the Lich stupidly to ensure their success it's obviously no fun either.So any advice on what I can use instead of a Lich.  I was thinking that some sort of fiend could also have a phylactery of sorts that bound it to this plane allowing it to stay around more.  Alternatively some sort of weakened Lich may work but I don't have any rules for anything like that.Any ideas?The Hoard</blockquote>

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