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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goblyns Hoard" data-source="post: 1851083" data-attributes="member: 19970">Nice idea - They try and take the lich - are almost slaughtered and leg it, but then kill the child.  However it gets risky because they might not run.  Plus I'd like to build the lich (or lich substitute if I can come up with some-such) up as a bad guy but I also like the idea of them killing it and thinking it's already over.GSHamster - I don't think they'd take the time to listen to the lich in the first place to set them up with going after the child... or trust it to be telling the truth.  And if I'm going to introduce a villain like this I definitely want him to encounter the party - otherwise I don't get the fun of playing him.Painandgreed - The idea works but I'd rather not introduce another adventuring party in the area - they already have a few allies around and too many will mean some of the longer term campaign issues may fall apart if I can't explain away the other party.  Cheers for the thought though.Stormborn - That's a good idea - kinf of what I was hoping for (avoids the need for a Lich by downgrading who uses the phylactery).  I think I can go with that.  My Gods don't really oppose each other in the classical sence (as none of them have any alignment - they are beyond 'earthly morality').  But there is certainly a god of Death - part of him is anti-undead but the other side is certainly in favour of it and would support this.DOH! - a couple of adventures back they killed a half-demon Thrall of Orcus (BoVD) in an old Thanis Death Cult mountain temple.  If I have him reappear now something's going to be up with it - and Thanis (God of Death, Reflection and Revenge) certainly has the power to send him back...How to tie that in to the child though?The child then is Kel's (the half-demon) own daughter... which makes it just an infant (cause he was fairly young himself - little more than a boy).  It also means that the mother will be reluctant to let the party near it (It's a tiefling afterall and the mother is probably ashamed of that) to even find out that Kel is somehow clinging to life through it.  Last time they just dumped his body down a shaft to dispose of it - when he first comes back they may try burning it in order to kill him, so I've got a few more sessions to build up to it.Cheers for that Stormborn... and thanks to the rest of you for the ideas, I may try and twist some of those into it as well.The Hoard</blockquote>

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