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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goblyns Hoard" data-source="post: 1856509" data-attributes="member: 19970">Reapersaurus - cheers for the input, and as you can see I didn't want to use a lich - it was just the idea of a lich like return from the dead that is tied to an innocent that I wanted... hence the question.  Also it's not a moral dilemma I'm aiming for - it's a crisis of faith.  The paladin won't want to kill the child but his god will be demanding it, and once he's done it his god will be pissed off at the death of a child.  So ultimately the paladin will be pissed off at his god for forcing his hand and then judging him for it.  As to the kid being the phylactery I was looking for something with the same sort of relationship rather than the RAW version.  Plus the kid doesn't actually live with the creature (whatever it ends up as), it's just it's link to the world - maybe closer to a spirit based link than that created by a lich.  It may not even know that the kid is the link.Patlin - unfortunately too simple - if the paladin makes a genuine error by accident then he just needs to be really sorry and atone - serious I know, but easy enough to overcome and he would be truly sorry once he found out.  What I'm aiming for is his conscious decision to slay the innocent.LostSoul - will check out those suggestions at home this evening... still think the half-fiend they've already fought is propably the best option (as there's already history to it... makes it look like I had longer term plans right from the start...)  And you've got the right twist to the crisis of faith I'm aiming for - once you've chosen this path once how soon before you do it again?  Plus on top of that - do I still believe in what my God represents or do I need to think again about staying in her service?</blockquote>

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