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<blockquote data-quote="Agback" data-source="post: 1021209" data-attributes="member: 5328"><p>No. Sorry, but no.</p><p></p><p>Mates are specialists who are not heads of their department. For example, the Carpenter's mates are carpenters who are not the Carpenter.</p><p></p><p>On a <em>merchant</em> ship the officers are master's mates, and the second-in-command is the First Mate. But on a warship the officers are lieutenants, and the second-in-commmand is the First Lieutenant.</p><p></p><p>The petty officer on a warship who is closest equivalent to a sergeant-major is the <em>bosun</em> (boatswain).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, commander was a permanent rank. You could have a commander on half pay (ie. without even a berth as officer on someone else's ship.</p><p></p><p>Commanders were, however, always the commanding officers of some vessel: a vessel smaller than a ship, obviously.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This was also the title of the commanding officers of merchant ships.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Admiral is the highest rank bar none.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. Rear Admirals were certainly not confined to the land. They are admirals of the lowest of three grades: rear admiral, vice-admiral, admiral, who had originally commanded the rearguard, the vanguard, and the whole fleet (respectively). Nelson did most of his famous deeds as a rear-admiral, and won (and died) at Trafalgar as a vice-admiral.</p><p></p><p>Somewhere around this point you left out the commodore, a captain who is too junior to be promoted to admiral, but who is nevertheless given command of a flotilla or squadron.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. A pilot is a civilian expert employed by the port authorities of a particular port. When a ship arrives at the port the pilot comes aboard (by boat) to advise the ship's officers how to negotiate the navigational hazards of the approaches, find the correct berth, etc. When the ship leaves port it takes a pilot to guide it out: when done he returns to the port in his boat. The pilot is not a member of a ship's crew.</p><p></p><p>The men who handle the wheel are <em>quartermasters</em>. (Because their place is on the quarterdeck, I think. Do not confuse them with quartermasters in teh army, who are in charge of getting everybody quarters to sleep in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, only the topmen do that. Gun crews and deckhands don't.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agback</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Agback, post: 1021209, member: 5328"] No. Sorry, but no. Mates are specialists who are not heads of their department. For example, the Carpenter's mates are carpenters who are not the Carpenter. On a [i]merchant[/i] ship the officers are master's mates, and the second-in-command is the First Mate. But on a warship the officers are lieutenants, and the second-in-commmand is the First Lieutenant. The petty officer on a warship who is closest equivalent to a sergeant-major is the [i]bosun[/i] (boatswain). No, commander was a permanent rank. You could have a commander on half pay (ie. without even a berth as officer on someone else's ship. Commanders were, however, always the commanding officers of some vessel: a vessel smaller than a ship, obviously. This was also the title of the commanding officers of merchant ships. Admiral is the highest rank bar none. Nope. Rear Admirals were certainly not confined to the land. They are admirals of the lowest of three grades: rear admiral, vice-admiral, admiral, who had originally commanded the rearguard, the vanguard, and the whole fleet (respectively). Nelson did most of his famous deeds as a rear-admiral, and won (and died) at Trafalgar as a vice-admiral. Somewhere around this point you left out the commodore, a captain who is too junior to be promoted to admiral, but who is nevertheless given command of a flotilla or squadron. No. A pilot is a civilian expert employed by the port authorities of a particular port. When a ship arrives at the port the pilot comes aboard (by boat) to advise the ship's officers how to negotiate the navigational hazards of the approaches, find the correct berth, etc. When the ship leaves port it takes a pilot to guide it out: when done he returns to the port in his boat. The pilot is not a member of a ship's crew. The men who handle the wheel are [i]quartermasters[/i]. (Because their place is on the quarterdeck, I think. Do not confuse them with quartermasters in teh army, who are in charge of getting everybody quarters to sleep in. No, only the topmen do that. Gun crews and deckhands don't. Regards, Agback [/QUOTE]
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