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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 4180136" data-attributes="member: 319">The big problem with penalties for death and being brought back from the dead is that sometimes they are unfair - and even when they're not, they sure feel that way. - Some classes - tanks, mainly - take more risks than others. You end up being a meat shield for the rest of the party, and as your reward you get killed and lose a level.- The better you design your character and the better you play, the more dangerous your PC is - and the more negative attention he's going to attract. (generally speaking) Needless to say, that doesn't improve the PC's life expectancy.- For whatever reason, the one time your character is in big trouble, the party fails to bail you out, and the PC dies. You think of the four or five times the party clown (playing a Str 12 Bard with a greatsword) had to be saved from certain death, and fume.- Another PC does something stupid that gets the party involved in a fight even though they're unprepared, but it's your character that dies.- PC death happens so rarely in the game you're in that it feels less like one of the necessary risks of adventuring and more like a freakish accident that just cost you a level, and you wonder what's the point of playing with a random 1:10,000 chance someone will get royally screwed.- As Creeping Death points out, the rules are lousy when it comes to the math - sometimes, you lose a lot more than just a level's worth of XP.Most of these issues can only really be resolved based on what the people you play with want as a whole.Though I find that having a better system for calculating XP loss helps... I've been using the following:1. Calculate the XP for the encounter as if the PC didn't die. 2. Subtract (current level -1)*1000xp from the dead PC's total.And I find that it works pretty well.</blockquote>

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