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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5474998" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>I have no comment on your "lost edition" notion - I just don't know.</p><p></p><p>I do think the majority of 4e players would move on to 5e... in 4-5 years. But I suspect that if it was done now, it would lose a lot of people. (Some would consider it too soon on principle, some would consider it a naked money-grab, some would decide they'd rather just wait a couple more years for 6e. Of course, you also lose some with <em>any</em> edition upgrade. And, of course, there would always be some who prefer 4e to whatever new edition came out.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, the vast majority of PF customers have just gone through an edition upgrade. They're probably fairly happy where they are. I suspect many of them (including the moderates) would simply declare any edition update (D&D <em>or</em> PF) as "too soon", and ignore it.</p><p></p><p>(That said, they'd probably be more likely to look at a PF update than a D&D one if it were done <em>right now</em>, because Paizo currently have a better relationship with their fans. Of course, a large part of that better relationship is built on a (perceived) understanding that the company won't do that sort of thing!)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I simply cannot imagine Hasbro ever selling off the D&D IP. They might license out the rights to the RPG. But I also cannot imagine Paizo picking up the license - having gone through the pain of losing the license once before, I cannot see them going down that path again. Better to stand alone and have control, rather than be dependent on a license that could easily go away.</p><p></p><p>For better or worse, I think D&D and Pathfinder are now separate entities, and ever more shall be.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we're in accord on both these points. However, I think the next step in emphasising the DDI <em>is</em> an increased focus on the VTT and the like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5474998, member: 22424"] I have no comment on your "lost edition" notion - I just don't know. I do think the majority of 4e players would move on to 5e... in 4-5 years. But I suspect that if it was done now, it would lose a lot of people. (Some would consider it too soon on principle, some would consider it a naked money-grab, some would decide they'd rather just wait a couple more years for 6e. Of course, you also lose some with [i]any[/i] edition upgrade. And, of course, there would always be some who prefer 4e to whatever new edition came out.) Again, the vast majority of PF customers have just gone through an edition upgrade. They're probably fairly happy where they are. I suspect many of them (including the moderates) would simply declare any edition update (D&D [i]or[/i] PF) as "too soon", and ignore it. (That said, they'd probably be more likely to look at a PF update than a D&D one if it were done [i]right now[/i], because Paizo currently have a better relationship with their fans. Of course, a large part of that better relationship is built on a (perceived) understanding that the company won't do that sort of thing!) I simply cannot imagine Hasbro ever selling off the D&D IP. They might license out the rights to the RPG. But I also cannot imagine Paizo picking up the license - having gone through the pain of losing the license once before, I cannot see them going down that path again. Better to stand alone and have control, rather than be dependent on a license that could easily go away. For better or worse, I think D&D and Pathfinder are now separate entities, and ever more shall be. I think we're in accord on both these points. However, I think the next step in emphasising the DDI [i]is[/i] an increased focus on the VTT and the like. [/QUOTE]
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