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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 3170526" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>Smurf, you know that, I and know that, but the DM does not, and based on how other questions I've asked along similar lines have been answered, the DM will not let "fine steel" overcome a vampire's DR.</p><p></p><p>Players fighting a monster that hits for d8+12 damage twice per round? Fair.</p><p>Players getting to overcome that monster's DR? Not fair.</p><p>(But to be fair, see below... we did get fire last time.)</p><p></p><p>(We fought two vamps last session. They didn't drain levels or anything, so they're homebrewed monsters. The first one was killed almost entirely by the scimitar-wielder getting a few points of damage past DR and the wizard using flame-missiles to automatically hit each round for a bit. For the second monster, thanks to an anonymous benefactor, we had all been given rune-enhanced weapons that did flame damage, so we were hitting for 1d6 fire damage each round, and a negligible amount of physical melee damage. The anonymous benefactor was nice, and thanks to him, we've now got chainmail and chain shirts for those who want it -- stuff that we couldn't afford before, because we're playing in a game with historically realistic prices for things like armor and weapons.)</p><p></p><p>Everybody else... thanks. I guess I just needed to hear that I wasn't a crazy powergamer who couldn't roleplay. I'm not asking for a frenzied berserker... I just want the crap in the book.</p><p></p><p>I'm also going to have to go push on my wife's behalf to find out what she gets instead of an animal companion or spells at her 4th level of ranger. We just hit that last night, and all he'll say is "It's different in my game." Different is fine, but a ranger who gets NOTHING instead of ranger spells or an animal companion is... not.</p><p></p><p>Although I'll be honest. I'm getting bummed enough that, frankly, I'm cheating. I'm not faking dice rolls or cheating on my numbers, but if the DM doesn't remember that Precise Shot should be in play, Tacky the Rules Encyclopedia isn't going to bring it up and make his wife have an even SMALLER chance to hit. She's already outclassed by the DMPC archer. So I suppose I'm cheating vicariously by not telling my wife to take a -4 for not having Precise Shot while the vampire hits us for 1d8+12 twice each round.</p><p></p><p>Also changed in this game: range penalties. In this game, they go 0/-3/-6/-12/-24. Apparently people in his last game tried to break his plots by fighting from a distance a lot, so he altered the rules to make things more fun. He also apparently changed the physics of his world (like how the sun moves across the sky, how gravity works) so that people can't "play physics" to declare that something should or shouldn't happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 3170526, member: 5171"] Smurf, you know that, I and know that, but the DM does not, and based on how other questions I've asked along similar lines have been answered, the DM will not let "fine steel" overcome a vampire's DR. Players fighting a monster that hits for d8+12 damage twice per round? Fair. Players getting to overcome that monster's DR? Not fair. (But to be fair, see below... we did get fire last time.) (We fought two vamps last session. They didn't drain levels or anything, so they're homebrewed monsters. The first one was killed almost entirely by the scimitar-wielder getting a few points of damage past DR and the wizard using flame-missiles to automatically hit each round for a bit. For the second monster, thanks to an anonymous benefactor, we had all been given rune-enhanced weapons that did flame damage, so we were hitting for 1d6 fire damage each round, and a negligible amount of physical melee damage. The anonymous benefactor was nice, and thanks to him, we've now got chainmail and chain shirts for those who want it -- stuff that we couldn't afford before, because we're playing in a game with historically realistic prices for things like armor and weapons.) Everybody else... thanks. I guess I just needed to hear that I wasn't a crazy powergamer who couldn't roleplay. I'm not asking for a frenzied berserker... I just want the crap in the book. I'm also going to have to go push on my wife's behalf to find out what she gets instead of an animal companion or spells at her 4th level of ranger. We just hit that last night, and all he'll say is "It's different in my game." Different is fine, but a ranger who gets NOTHING instead of ranger spells or an animal companion is... not. Although I'll be honest. I'm getting bummed enough that, frankly, I'm cheating. I'm not faking dice rolls or cheating on my numbers, but if the DM doesn't remember that Precise Shot should be in play, Tacky the Rules Encyclopedia isn't going to bring it up and make his wife have an even SMALLER chance to hit. She's already outclassed by the DMPC archer. So I suppose I'm cheating vicariously by not telling my wife to take a -4 for not having Precise Shot while the vampire hits us for 1d8+12 twice each round. Also changed in this game: range penalties. In this game, they go 0/-3/-6/-12/-24. Apparently people in his last game tried to break his plots by fighting from a distance a lot, so he altered the rules to make things more fun. He also apparently changed the physics of his world (like how the sun moves across the sky, how gravity works) so that people can't "play physics" to declare that something should or shouldn't happen. [/QUOTE]
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